you've spent years mocking autism and years spreading suspicion about chez. It's you and your gang trolls.

possibly worth noting that this isn't superlefties like fly etc exaggerating the situation to try to get right wingers shut down

p7 isnt that. its 'here's a graph showing that black people are genetically inferior', 'suposedly the driver of that murderous car was paid to do it by the jews' and so on. really disgraceful stuff

Mat has seen all of it before.

Posts like you describe I have seen modded. Today. So maybe you are exaggerating or wrong?

modded? the 'soros arranged this whole situation' post is still there and the person who made it will be posting more outrageous bile later tonight

By modded you mean given a warning that was aggressively rejected with no consequence?

Just a few minutes ago......

Yes the lights are on and the rats are scrambling for cover. So what. Deleting posts now while not banning the offensive scumbags doesn't solve the problem.

I'm not really understanding this question. I'm saying I would prefer we were able to fix things rather than closing the forum down.

I stay out of the debate because I'd have a really hard time modding a politics forum. I think, in general, it's better to allow people to post their nonsense (with the obvious exception of hate speech that is advocating violence) and have it shredded by others than to remove it all. But at the same time, I worry about lending legitimacy to viewpoints that aren't worthy of it.

I also tend to give the benefit of the doubt to people much more than many of you would like. Probably to a fault. So I suspect that I wouldn't characterize as many things as "white nationalist bigoted racist Nazi propaganda" as you would.

So to answer your question, anything that I would label "white nationalist bigoted racist Nazi propaganda" isn't something that I'd allow if it were my site, but my definition would likely be different than yours. And I'm not convinced I'm right about my definition, but it's what I have to go on.

Yeah, man, but here's a fun ****ing fact. That you wrote this **** out like anyone needed it explained instead of just saying where your lines are says a lot about you, too.

OK and I'm gonna guess this will be a recurring theme here. I didn't say that to make my case "stronger"(my case is what it is) or "more convincing"(to who?), I said it because it's true.

I saw moderating happen. Just like I said as a poster.
There is a moderation thread in that forum to answer your moderator questions.

You know there is a whole other politics forum modded way differently. You may wanna try it.

Fix what things?

You guys literally cannot help yourself, because you went write on to say:

Seems like there's no problem at all. Other people(never you) can "shred" nonsense, but also that nonsense isn't even nonsense in the first place, probably.

This disingenuous horse**** has never made you appear objective or above it all.

You've always been dramatic and rather totalitarian about what you want done. Stay gold.

If the powers that be want an alt-right subforum they can have it, but can it not be modded by a troll? Mod one of the actual Nazis and let's do it honestly. Just as a user experience, threads getting littered with meaningless greet text is not good.

That is okay. I'll post whatever/wherever I like until the mods/owners decide that I am no longer welcome here. And my opinion is that I don't think this community should be given the burden of having to refute our affiliation with Nazi conspiracy theory propaganda.

Sounds like another way of saying that my views about racists, bigots, and white supremacists has remained steadfast.

So, thanks mang.

This is the crux though. Well named is I suspect going to agree with you. I'm generally more strict than him on what should be allowed as I preferred the approach of modding posts because they caused offense to vulnerable groups without having to judge the poster.

I've compromise a fair bit of that to accommodate Well Named who is a big asset to the forum/modding. We're still feeling our way since Well Named joined but have moved more in the direction of allowing offensive posts as long as they don't break the site rules.

There' no perfect stance on this particularly given how grubby and extreme real life politics is these days.

Oh so you decide for a whole community, for a sub forum you rarely post in? Pffffft.

No, I mean rigidness and zealousness leads to mistakes about people.

Spank was that some good old fashioned MOCKING MOCKERY on your part because the guy doesn't want to be associated with Nazi propaganda?

No, I let my opinion be known. The community can then decide what happens and then I can decide whether I still want to be a part of the community, leave the community or actively oppose the community. That is how **** works in a free and open society.

No I think we've all had a pretty good look into the heart of BruceZ, Wil, Broadway, mongo, Toothless, and many others. I'm totally comfortable tossing them overboard.

No. It's not my doing that you seem to include every p7 poster in your sweeping generalizations.

Okay. So what now?

Tea and crumpets?

Kibbles and bits?

No, it really doesn't. But it would seem that making a lot of assumptions about people from a post or two is your thing.

You know who "Mat's buddies" are? My apologies, I didn't know you had such information.

No idea, as I haven't read the forum. But Mat suggested he's leaning towards closing the forum, so presumably he has concerns. I'm saying I'd prefer that a way was found to address them rather than closing the forum.

OK.

I was asked for my opinion on something specific, and I gave it. It's not an opinion on what's happening in the forum now, because I don't read it, nor do I plan to, so I'm not qualified to give one.

And no, none of what I posted was disingenuous. All my horse****, if that's what you think it is, was sincere.