Expressing support for white supremacy is obviously not acceptable.

exiles are granted upon request by any moderator for their forum. i don't believe i have said no to this at any time.

Our current approach is increasing timeouts with the final option of an exile. I'd much rather we get someone to stop posting in the objectionable way rather than reach the stage of exile. Better result all round.

This is one of those things you shouldn't have said, chezlaw

As I understand it, the exile from politics forums is the preferred route for regulars, and banned posters are generally allowed back if they ask. I stand to be corrected.

As I say, I don't think it's really our job to ban regulars from 2 +2 and also, when they make unacceptable posts, I'd much prefer we get them to modify their posting than be exiled.

Yes we know Chez, you prefer to coddle and befriend bigots and racists.

/P7

whosnext made that green post and honestly, I thought he was gonna empty the clips and start guesting dudes.

Also,

I mean, I clown on wil so much I'd list it as a hobby and I'd need to find a new thing, but this is downright outlandish and unseemly now.

I srsly do not know where this is going but I know it's gonna be good:

I fear he may going down the ToothSayer path and will soon be accusing me of enabling hitler

What you mean is he will get a one day (that's 24 whole hours) time out, and if he does it again it may even rise to 2 days. Wow!

Unless his name's wil, then the time outs rise to a certain level and then mysteriously drop back to a day again.

How convenient.

Ok, here's the original exchange:

And these are the following posts still "along these lines":

Banned posters from politics will generally be allowed to remain in exchange from an exile from politics forums though maybe Mat evaluates on the merits and the merits here are pretty clear.

Hows the getting them to modify their posting working out for you?

That's not a knock on whosnext's modding either as he struck me as the type to just swing around banhammers mercilessly. I think he got preoccupied with something else. The whole thing is weird.

True story: This one time way, way back in BBV4L some people started saying "porch monkey" in reference to a scene from the film Clerks 2, which I'd never seen. I told them to chill it out but when they realized I wasn't catching the reference more people started running wild with porch monkey this and porch monkey that.

So, I just started banning everybody. It was a mini-massacre.

Now, that was ****ing BBV4L and "porch monkeys" not being used as a slur, merely referencing a thing in pop culture.

This is dudes Blaming The Jews for a nazi murdering a human in cold blood, on film.

We've only even seen one timeout and that was JiggilyMac. This whole thing is just bizarre. People seem to think the forum should be shut down because the temp bans and timeouts aren't working, but we're not even at that point yet!

2+2,

you're letting white nationalists and nazi apologists run rampant on one of your forums

why

Ever heard the phrase, "don't throw the baby out with the bath water"? The problem is just a small handful of extremely bigoted posters, such as wil13850 or whatever the number is, mongidig, JiggyMac, the latter two being non-Americans who try to present themselves as Americans, and constantly push far right American proapaganda. They post consistently in the manner as if they were sock puppets.

I think a lot of people have been saying for a long time is that the biggest problem with the forum is a small handful of people like the aforementioned who are still allowed to post, despite not only bringing nothing constructive to the forum, but constantly making it ****ty.

And the problem is not just racism, there is rampant transphobia from these posters as well.

Also, why not give equal weight to the opinions of all three mods?

chez, your timeouts are completely feckless. Just ban them ffs, that's all they are is bigots. They bring nothing of value to the forum, and constantly turn the discussion to ****.

Ban them, exile them, whatever, just get them the **** out.

Well Named needs to be part of this conversation. Let's let him get back to posting before we resume as I don't wish to put words in his mouth.

bump

Great! In the meantime let's just let the obvious racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic bigots and foreign right wing sock puppets spew their intolerance. Maybe if they start openly plotting to commit hate crimes you'll take away their juice box.

Maybe.

That's not what I said. I generally mod those sorts of posts more than Well Named is inclined to.

You want to discuss the forum changing the way it operates and that really needs to wait for Well Named

Yeah I'm not really getting the lack of TOs.

If nothing else, and 2p2 is only concerned about traffic, aren't we all familiar with how a poster gets banned and comes back to provide further lulz, all why trying to be on his best behavior, thus exponentiating the lulz?