For instance. I don't give a **** about people copying software for their own use, but as mod of CTH I prevent people from posting links or asking questions about torrents or other pirating tools because that is the policy of 2+2 and I agreed to help 2+2.

I think Mat is saying the same thing with "that viewpoint from a mod, by itself, is not problematic for me.... but if it means the moderation is biased, that would be a problem."

yes

It leaves us where we started. Wookie is liberal and because of this conservative posters assume his rulings are because of a liberal bias. Unfortunately, literally all of them have turned out to be posters who are awful at posting politics.

It probably doesn't help that he dunks on them more often than not...

Mat, why don't you and Mason ever stay engaged in the Politics forum? You come in occasionally, take pot shots, and leave. If conservative ideas really hold merit, why not stick around and prove your point(s)?

Mason literally posted in a political opinion in NVG and said this isn't a politics thread, then locked the thread when people started arguing back.

lol. Have you ever seen a Mason Malmuth politics post? That dude is possibly the most biased person on the forum and he runs the place. His asking you to look at this thread is part of his bias. When Mason wants to talk politics, he'll either do it in NVG (contradicting NVG rules, which don't apply to him) or post something dumb in the Politics forum and then disappear rather than stay and defend his point.

Mason's request is the pot calling the kettle black.

i can't speak for mason. as for me, i don't have strong enough opinions on most topics being discussed in politics, or knowledge, to present any viewpoint. it's been awhile since i even tried to have some fun with the topic.

That's understandable. It's not a fun topic. A lot of us, including me, think our democracy is being dismantled before our eyes.

Just in terms of tone, i do see a difference between Mason's posts and Wookie's. I don't think i'm misrepresenting wookie by interpreting his post as saying that ALL republicans are evil in some way.

And I don't think Mason has ever said that all democrats are (fill in the blank)
in some way.

I'm glad you're posting here, because you have strong opinions and can communicate without prejudice and name calling. That's really the most important issue for us, and i think all mason would like to see at this point is more people posting like you. pretty sure i can speak for mason on that viewpoint.

We've had conservative mods in the past - they either scammed people and disappeared (TomVeil) or gave up (RR).

2018 is just not a good climate, imo, to be conservative and try to argue your positions in a fair forum in the light of day. You need a climate-controlled hothouse.

Maybe in like 1972 the situation would have been reversed and Republicans would have at least a 50-50 mix of logic on their side. But right now, I don't think that's the case.

keep in mind, i expect nothing more than failure.

if you want to take over the moderation of the 2+2 politics forum...

it shall be!

and kudos on the polite fu.

I will say that I think chez tried to be a fair mod for unchained and got absolutely excoriated for it - by both sides. Very thankless position.

I think wookie actually does a pertty good job - mainly because I rarely even notice his moderation.

But then again I'm a raging libtard, so...

Funny thing is in the early days of Politics I was middle of the road.

Why doesn't well named just join wookie as mod of P?

No offense to wookie, but politics modding is far large a task for a single mod. If there's going to be another mod then it needs to be someone from the right or well named.

No, you referenced it. We're just providing links to the thread you referenced.

No, that's not what he said. He said:

You didn't spell out your point, and so he did exactly what he said he would do.

The whole thread, which I just read for the first time was so...odd. At first, I wasn't sure that you were getting a fair shake, but then you went on this weird series of posts where you call people trolls for not directly answering a question, that as far as I could tell was being directly answered, refusing to expand on or further explain the question, and then refusing to answer what point you said had been proven. I still have no idea what your point was.

Given that you went on like this:

about this apparently deleted post, I'd think you'd take a little more interest in figuring it out.

i think it was eight or ten years ago, now. Mason and I had an argument about the number of links to porn that had cropped up all over this site. I thought we had a perfectly reasonable sampling. Mason thought otherwise. BBV4life was the biggest offender. In a tantrum, I shouted we should just shut bbv4life down. In frustration, he yelled, " You're the one who convinced me we should have bbv4life in the first place." i think that was our biggest fight.

"The Republican party has nothing to offer but white supremacy and money for the very rich" does not follow the form "All X are Y".

so i misinterpreted. enlighten me.

If I had to criticize Wookie's politics modding it would be for letting bad posters (typically conservative or right wing) get away with bad posting (bad faith arguments, trolling, conspiracy theories, straight up lying etc.) for far too long before pulling the trigger.
Also if he gets accused of biased modding how about an example of biased modding instead of an example of biased posting?

Bring back unchained and let it be moderator free this time. Is one uncensored sub forum a big deal? Stop being a pussy!

Well if that's the problem, Wookie didn't say that ("all Republicans are (fill in the blank)") either. He talked about the policies the party has actually pursued in office, and he was accurate in doing so.

there is a bizarre amount of energy spewing around. is that overpopulation?