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01-20-2019 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
I think you do. Both you and I know of better things we can be doing with our time.
you have reminded me i must do laundry. thank you.
01-20-2019 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
are the exiled posters just trolls? is it that simple? they don't care about the positions they take. they just come to disrupt?

fly annoys me a lot. and one reason he annoys me is that i think he's put me in a box i don't fit in. otoh, he doesn't post that much and his jabs at me, while annoying, also prod me into thinking about where i really stand on some things and who i really am.

i'm stumped as usual. and really honestly asking questions. not the fake news part. that was a joke.
I wouldn't say trolls because i think they believe what they say. But many are just bad posters with badly formed views that disrupt. At least the chronic complainers.

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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Well Named as mod of an alternate politics forum - what a good idea, wish I'd thought of it.
I dont know why they like Well Named so much. He would of got around to banning most of them too.
01-20-2019 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie


And if you think that missing black fathers are a problem that falls squarely on the shoulders of black people, you are looking at statistics to justify your biases rather than thinking deeper about why that may be the case.
These are actual arguments. They can be dissected and challenged. Every credible stat I've seen points towards a massive racial disparity in single parent homes. Remember this was extracted from a debate with Well Named about the disproportionate poverty levels by race in the USA. If you can't listen to or tolerate a discussion about disparity in poverty, you shouldn't be a moderator. If someone points out racial disparity in poverty, it doesn't make them (well named) a racist. If someone points out racial disparity in single parent homes, it doesn't make them (me) a racist.

One thing I find common on the far left is the oppressor vs oppressed narrative causes a large disconnect in perspective and it creates a reflexive repulsion to the language I used. Like I hold adults accountable for their behavior. I feel empathy for the children being abandoned and I'm irritated at those who failed to take on their responsibility as a father. I think leftist perspective lends more to the pov that black men are oppressed and therefore I'm criticizing the oppressed. A black adults oppression aside, abandoning their child makes them an oppressor and a bad person. That standard is also color blind

Calling any of this "white supremacy" is for simpletons. I'm literally standing up for black children and calling out anyone who doesn't take responsibility for their own children. The only thing racial about this is the disproportionate number of single mothers in the black community. If you think those stats are wrong, the appropriate argument is that I am wrong. Not I'm therefore evil. This all goes back to intolerance, biased, and closed minded behavior
01-20-2019 , 06:28 PM
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If someone points out racial disparity in poverty, it doesn't make them (well named) a racist. If someone points out racial disparity in single parent homes, it doesn't make them (me) a racist
You and well named say very different things when talking about racial disparities. We can look later in that thread where you engage well named and deny the existence of systemic racism because there aren't any laws on the books that are explicitly anti-black.

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I'm literally standing up for black children and calling out anyone who doesn't take responsibility for their own children.
Nah, you're clearly making a case explaining why black people are inferior to white people, and working on shaming black people, rather than looking to make their station any better or more just.
01-20-2019 , 06:33 PM
But he has evidence of their small brains and how they cant integrate with western culture!!

Cue youtube vid...
01-20-2019 , 06:37 PM
e.g.

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Originally Posted by juan valdez
history can and has created an unfair playing field. deciding that in 2016 that the same behavior with different skin color will reliably create a different outcome is a complete pile of bs

the reparation mindset is also logically feeble. the universe is not "fair". some people get born with better parents or more talent. thats just the way things go. manipulating the playing field isnt going to fix things, its going to make things worse. equality is equality and to play favorites just perpetuates problems
01-20-2019 , 06:39 PM
Same thing with women (especially in the workforce)!
01-20-2019 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
I dont know why they like Well Named so much. He would of got around to banning most of them too.
I dont want to share my views on who Well Named would ban but he is considered fair and that matters a lot even if they disagree with the decision.
01-20-2019 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
You and well named say very different things when talking about racial disparities. We can look later in that thread where you engage well named and deny the existence of systemic racism because there aren't any laws on the books that are explicitly anti-black.



Nah, you're clearly making a case explaining why black people are inferior to white people, and working on shaming black people, rather than looking to make their station any better or more just.
This is why you're a terrible mod and unable to operate in an unbiased manner

Abandoning your children is bad, regardless of race

A disproportionate number of black children are raised with absent fathers

Those are two arguments that you are welcome to dispute. The evidence is clear. You're also welcome to dispute the moon landing. Facts are racist? This isn't about "supremacy" its about racial disparity and poverty. Something I believe well named has taken upon himself to lecture everyone on. According to the mod of the politics forum believing the mountain of stats and Don Lemon himself that there is a disproportionate number of black kids with absent fathers is good enough to label you a white supremacists and its not even up for debate. Or is it the fact that kids being raised without a father being bad is a deplorable pov?

Or is it that I thought that during Obama's second term that systemic racism wasn't a current problem. Perhaps you could enlighten me on which part of systemic racism Obama had completely ignored while he was in the whitehouse. All well named produced was an encyclopedia explaining disproportionate traffic stops. I guess not conforming to your view once again is deplorable. It obviously makes someone a white supremacist to think Obama would have at least made the issues public. Clearly these things shouldn't be up for debate... The level of Hubris

I like Larry Elders take on the situation. But who cares? I'm a white supremacists and disagreeing with any of your views isn't up for debate. The simplicity and intolerance you express is just pathetic. You're a moderator

01-20-2019 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
But he has evidence of their small brains and how they cant integrate with western culture!!

Cue youtube vid...
This is the nut low posting that needs to be given no rope. Nobody has ever presented anything like this except you. I've never seen anyone suggest this. Get a grip
01-20-2019 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
This is why you're a terrible mod and unable to operate in an unbiased manner

Abandoning your children is bad, regardless of race

A disproportionate number of black children are raised with absent fathers

Those are two arguments that you are welcome to dispute. The evidence is clear. You're also welcome to dispute the moon landing. Facts are racist? This isn't about "supremacy" its about racial disparity and poverty. Something I believe well named has taken upon himself to lecture everyone on. According to the mod of the politics forum believing the mountain of stats and Don Lemon himself that there is a disproportionate number of black kids with absent fathers is good enough to label you a white supremacists and its not even up for debate. Or is it the fact that kids being raised without a father being bad is a deplorable pov?

Or is it that I thought that during Obama's second term that systemic racism wasn't a current problem. Perhaps you could enlighten me on which part of systemic racism Obama had completely ignored while he was in the whitehouse. All well named produced was an encyclopedia explaining disproportionate traffic stops. I guess not conforming to your view once again is deplorable. It obviously makes someone a white supremacist to think Obama would have at least made the issues public. Clearly these things shouldn't be up for debate... The level of Hubris

I like Larry Elders take on the situation. But who cares? I'm a white supremacists and disagreeing with any of your views isn't up for debate. The simplicity and intolerance you express is just pathetic. You're a moderator


i'm a one pager. (see lindsey graham advising barr)

i just read that wookie is a terrible mod because you are a white supremacist.

want to try again? use less words than me.
01-20-2019 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
Same thing with women (especially in the workforce)!
This is just another demonstration of bias and intolerance. You guys have been operating in an echo chamber so long that you reflexively mock and detest anyone speaking against the narrative

There's plenty of quality of research showing that women are doing better at school than men at every level. They are making as much or more money prior to having children. But anyone citing credible research or speaking up is a deplorable sexist. These things aren't up for debate!!!

More tolerant and super woke moderation
01-20-2019 , 07:26 PM
less words.
01-20-2019 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i'm a one pager. (see lindsey graham advising barr)

i just read that wookie is a terrible mod because you are a white supremacist.

want to try again? use less words than me.
Can you greet us with a picture of the dog cone on your head more often? That was hilarious
01-20-2019 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by che[LEFT
[/LEFT]zlaw;54735202]I dont want to share my views on who Well Named would ban but he is considered fair and that matters a lot even if they disagree with the decision.
I Know. That is why they would of got banned and then, not respected him.
01-20-2019 , 07:31 PM
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01-20-2019 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by formula72
I like Fly's posting a lot mainly for the reasons stated. Personally, I don't mind his personal attacks because I just don't get very offended in an anonymous forum but I can see why some do.



What are your thoughts on DTH as far as personal attacks and insightfulness?
Does he actually attack you or is this just from your observations of others being attacked?
01-20-2019 , 07:37 PM
My take on things is that Angelina Jolie tries to mould her men into something they really don't want to be and once they get sick of it they dump her.

And in football:


Spoiler:

Worst non-call ever!

Rams won
01-20-2019 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
Can you greet us with a picture of the dog cone on your head more often? That was hilarious

i've lost some weight because of this picture, but chico is still going strong.

01-20-2019 , 07:38 PM
I said something wrong earlier, which I should correct. Juan clearly loves ATF politics threads more than I do.
01-20-2019 , 07:39 PM
So you're saying if I take a picture of myself with a dog and a cone and no shirt I can lose weight? I'm willing to give it a shot.
01-20-2019 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
This is the nut low posting that needs to be given no rope. Nobody has ever presented anything like this except you. I've never seen anyone suggest this. Get a grip
01-20-2019 , 07:39 PM
If you want to complain about or praise Politics, its moderators or users, give suggestions, whatever - rather than post o/t in other threads or start threads that are likely to be locked or deleted, please stick to posting in this dedicated thread and you will probably get away with most stuff.

Thank you.
01-20-2019 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
Does he actually attack you or is this just from your observations of others being attacked?
I've gotten into with Fly but that was many years ago. If memory serves, Wookie Temp banned me and correctly so for spouting a bunch of ignorant **** just to piss him off I think. He came out ahead.
01-20-2019 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
Yeah that much should be obvious. The thread happening right now in real time is a shining example. He's cultivated such a biased herd of like-minded people that we can actually watch them stumble around like some drunks competing in the 100m hurdles. Can they ever actually figure out the fake news? Face plant after face plant. At least there's a comedic element to it.

I think they've run the only sensible person out of the thread now. A quick tap but at least they showed up.

It's gone so far off the rails I'm not sure you could bring the forum back. There's only one way to find out. If the forum can't tolerate views from the political center clearly pointing out fake news on video, then you have your answer
You are just reinforcing why you are exiled from the politics forum. Here’s a hint:

Thinking that the news is fake is not a “centrist” point of view.
Thinking that the news is fake is not a “centrist” point of view.
Thinking that the news is fake is not a “centrist” point of view.

      
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