^^ agreed

This is true and it’s also not a new phenomenon. What’s different about the US is, unlike just about every other western democracy, instead of a parliamentary system we have a lol constitutional republic. It’s worth noting that nearly every other constitutional republic created in modern times has slid into dictatorship, and that even when the US goes on “nation building” jaunts (Ie: Iraq), we don’t set up the new countries with the US system, we set them up with a parliamentary system.

Yup “the presidency of Donald j. Trump” thread is one of the greatest aggregators of relevant political news stories on the interwebs.

Too bad we only hear one side of the political spectrum about those articles, tweets, etc., hey?

It could almost be your perfect digest of the major news if you knew more about why something has happened.

Yup.. Its my 1st stop. Better than any news site ever.

It is still very good though. It would be tragic to lose.

I might never have even heard of someone like AOC if it wasn't for 2+2.

Perhaps a currently exiled poster who doesn’t know how to keep his accounts straight?

this. politics moderators will stop banning bigots, they will only exile for the bolded above.

Since most of the acceptable right wing stuff is also posted, is it the lol u mad stuff underneath the post that got you lol mad or is it that most of the Facebook memes are not acceptable in the Politics thread? I'm

I don't think anyone apart from you thinks it's me.

Well since I'm exiled I only heard about AOC through the Ms OOT contest but you probably didn't want to hear that.

Sure, I prefer parliamentary to presidential (what I assume you mean by "constitutional republic") systems of government. However, even parliamentary and semi-parliamentary systems are seeing this phenomenon in Western Europe - eg 5 Star and Northern League in Italy, AFD in Germany, Brexit in the UK, Le Pen in France.

And you want people to implement your beliefs and ideals into policies despite not being able to obtain the voting blocks and/or legislative power required by our system. Even if the left "we are good and just" personification was accurate, your inability to triumph over the evil deplorables of Trumpkinville in FL, WI,PA and OH have you demonizing the 50%ish percent of the voters who prevailed and elected Trump over your candidate. Instead of seeing value in trying to change voters minds, you write off a substantial portion of the population as stupid, racist sheeple who dont vote there own self interests, let alone vote for the greater good of mankind.

Hence, the echo chamber of leftist idealism of the 2+2 Political Forum shouting down any opposing viewpoints. You have easily created the safe space for your righteous ideals in an imaginary world where the moderators cherish the dog-piling and their ability to permaban the opposition. There is nothing wrong with this world, why change anything?

Well now it is changed because the owner says it must. No one cares about your respect or your contempt, except you. Its your own narcissism telling you "i am a better person than everyone because of my moral code and i should be able to insult and degrade the honor, intelligence and views of the oppositon with immunity" that will cause the demise of the Politics Forum.

bundy, heres the thing. if right wingers got "level minded modding" it would be a complete sht show. you guys wouldnt know what hit you.

the fact is, lefties get modded much tougher, and righties get more rope.

I guess I can take this one. No, by and large, I don't consider Trump voters "****ing ******s." I don't now, and I didn't then.

Hey man, you can't deny all those mod lessons I've been dishing to you over the last few days.

Not my candidate. Hillary was a centre-right corporate stooge. I would have voted for her if I could but it would not have been a happy vote.

Also

http://www.electproject.org/2016g

Looks like about 27% of voters by my calculation.

Changing minds would be a fine goal if minds were changeable. If they haven't changed after the last 2 years of lol trump stumbling from one self created crisis to another then yeah, they're a write off. Luckily we don't need them to enact change we just need to energise like 1/10th of the 42+% of people who don't vote.

Pour one out for the politics forum but I very much doubt it will be my posting that will be responsible. I'm not that memorable.

Bundy, have you even considered taking up a hobby of some kind?

Right, but I was referring to broad historical trends and the comparison between the US and other countries in relative terms, not the rise of Le Pen and Brexit et al. I'm mainly talking about how Bernie was viewed as a radical leftist and the rest of the world said, uh, wat?

Lol amazing

We probably should have realized that bundy and Gordo are the same guy.

I wonder how many other accounts he has?

I think you're supposed to put your thesis in the 1st paragraph and then provide support.

Writes two paragraphs whining about the lack of respect, then says nobody cares about the respect, then tops it off with another couple sentences whinig about the lack of respect.

This will be my last post on the topic, and it's directed I suppose more to the management and lurkers rather than the regulars and moderators, who have proven themselves unaffectable by reason ("inert" even). The quoted post was not "hilarious", it was stupid and pointless, and was made by a proudly rude and anti-intellectual poster with a history of clogging up threads with useless, content-free posts. He's certainly entitled to try to bring down the level of discussion as usual, but it's quickly followed by this moderator who gives a "thumbs up" to it--go ahead, that's what we like to see! The other moderators, wookie and goofyballer, behave the exact same way. They will readily ban an outsider who they disagree with for minutiae. They create a truly terrible forum, and wonder why they get negative feedback. My experience is the experience of all posters who wish to post freely and respectfully, and this is why they're all gone.

Since Mike Haven promised that almost anything would go in this thread, I'm not planning on moderating it heavily, although perhaps it would be better if I did. I dunno, it wasn't my idea.

But I will arbitrarily and capriciously moderate posts if I think they are too far over the line, just fwiw. Please direct all complaints to the ATF politics thread containment thread in French BBV.

6ix's u mad posts were "a little bit of fun" if you want "vigorous debate" feel free to respond to any of the multiple high content effort posts itt. If you're so precious that you can't take a bit of a ribbing without taking your ball then there's just not much hope for you.