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12-19-2017 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
What's wrong with conspiracy theories though? Prove them wrong or ignore?

I find them interesting even if they are proven wrong.

Actually prove them wrong though, don't just ban the person that is presenting them just for the sake of "zomg conspiracy theory".

I will read every theory and make my own judgement, If someone posted a theory of a 50 foot long crab that only eats cotton candy, I wouldn't yell for people to stop posting or talking about it, I would make my own judgement, so trying to silence someone just because you don't agree with what they say is simply pathetic.
Kruze I love you but this is.

1. Just dumb. The biggest feature of a good conspiracy theory is that it is non-falsabiable. Either by how it is stated or, more likely, because the supporters of the theory will not accept any evidence against the theory at face value. They only reliable sources of information on the theory are those who support the theory. I spent years fighting morons in the 9/11 conspiracy thread and they are non-winnable. The only way to fight a conspiracy theory is to not let it get started in the first place.

2. Now this is a list.
12-19-2017 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
get a grip man, holy ****

go on netflix, there are conspiracy theory shows

should they be banned?

they are just ideas/opinions/bull****

ignore them or debate them

don't silence them, they don't harm anyone.
Again, Kruze, this isn't true. Mentally unstable people who get enmeshed in these theories have killed people. How bad would it have been if the guy who showed up at Pizzagate with an assault rifle been if he thought he saw something? Allowing these things to go is a horrible choice.
12-19-2017 , 04:58 PM
for some context, the POG politics thread one hour ago, from the most prolific poster in the thread

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I started watching a big documentary on sandy hook this morning. I didn't make it too far but the whole thing is a joke.

Many of the supposed parents connected to leftist gun grabbing groups. Or they are actual actors

And enough inconsistencies and weird **** to fill a three hour film.

In general when it comes to conspiracy theories, where there is smoke there is fire.

Hundreds of books and countless films (as in the case of jfk, 9/11) don't get made on a subject because there is nothing there.
12-19-2017 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
There are no specific site-wide rules. There are only general rules which individual moderators may interpret on their own. Once, in unchained, I said sandy hook conspiracies wouldn't be allowed. That was the extent of that rule from me.
I think the only other hard and fast lines where:

1. Holocaust denial

2. That no one died on 9/11 (holographic jets, etc)
12-19-2017 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
The POG politics thread exists for a good reason as Bloo outlined in the OP (to contain politics discussions). If we agree with that reason for existence it seems pretty clear cut that only POGgers should be posting there. If you don’t participate in other places on POG you are not at risk for clogging it up.

As far as “why bahbah and not kerwo” question that seems like common sense. I don’t think any of us have a huge problem with the occasional passerby dipping their toe in for a week or two worth of discussion in the hopes they may like the POG community and become a party of it. But that is clearly not what bahbah is doing.
And I'm ****ing delightful
12-19-2017 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
for some context, the POG politics thread one hour ago, from the most prolific poster in the thread
That's me. I'm a person who believes in conspiracy theories. I am guilty of this.
12-19-2017 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
for some context, the POG politics thread one hour ago, from the most prolific poster in the thread
Man, journalists on the right are ****ing pathetic if there's a Sandy Hook conspiracy. Real journalists took down the Nixon administration, yet these dumbass hacks working for Breitbart and Veritas can't even figure out if the kids who died in Newtown were real.
12-19-2017 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
and by 'take action' I mean 'give a warning' at this stage obv, before anyone gets hysterical about me calling for bannings or anything
Not being an actual rocket science I'm not sure how hard this actually is but FFS it's not rocket science:

1. When he does a boom boom, tell not to do a boom boom

2. When he does a boom boom again, tell him not to do a boom boom

3. Repeat until you feel comfortable asking for his exile from the thread/forum/site
12-19-2017 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
FYI, there is a whole group of posters who want to, but can't talk about politics on 2plus2, because they have been banned (unfairly in a lot of cases) from the main politics forum.

Naturally they are going to find any politics sub-forum, no matter how obscure, and post in it.
AND ANOTHER CONTENDER WANDERS IN!
12-19-2017 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
That's me. I'm a person who believes in conspiracy theories. I am guilty of this.
I've never had much use for conspiracy theories.
12-19-2017 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Man, journalists on the right are ****ing pathetic if there's a Sandy Hook conspiracy. Real journalists took down the Nixon administration, yet these dumbass hacks working for Breitbart and Veritas can't even figure out if the kids who died in Newtown were real.
Deep throat was an fbi agent, not a real journalist. Bob Woodward a hack...fwiw.
12-19-2017 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
soah, you forget, the existence of a POG Politics thread is because... the POG mods. Could simply lock it and require all political commentary be posted in the Politics subforum.


It's not a secret that the way well named wanted to run his "new politics thread" is exactly how POG politics thread is currently run.

OMG GASP

Right wing Posters can say things!?!? THE HORROR lol..

I stand by the posts i've made in POG Politics thread, I'm not defending myself anymore, you are free and probably to lazy to look back at the content I provided, but that isn't my problem.

Good luck. Have a nice day.
Bah Bah is a perfect example of how Right Wing Posters say things. Does anything think Bah Bah is getting **** on because he is Conservative? Would his posts have been more acceptable if they were equivalent Liberal points? No, he's just a bad poster. This is the problem with the current Politics forum system, the conservatives are just god awful posters who get run off for being horrible posters and confuse that with having conservative view.
12-19-2017 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
for some context, the POG politics thread one hour ago, from the most prolific poster in the thread
This would have been enough to get you banned from PU
12-19-2017 , 05:24 PM
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I started watching a big documentary on sandy hook this morning. I didn't make it too far but the whole thing is a joke.

Many of the supposed parents connected to leftist gun grabbing groups. Or they are actual actors
not very classy to talk about 20 murdered children like this

jmo ymmv
12-19-2017 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Sushy, you should go post in the POG Politics thread!
nah
12-19-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
3. I've POGGed so I'm legit
You played one game of werewolf 5 years ago against other mods. You have no connection to the community and you belong in that thread no more than bahbah.
12-19-2017 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
You played one game of werewolf 5 years ago against other mods. You have no connection to the community and you belong in that thread no more than bahbah.
1. See above

2. How does making threads/forums MORE difficult for people to post in do anything to help the loss of users from 2+2. Take your time and use small words you think I'll understand.
12-19-2017 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
1. See above

2. **** you Soah. The best way you can make 2+2 worse is to turn it into a bunch of balkanized little fiefdoms that you need "permission" to post in.

3. Yes, I'm making lists deal with it. Bah Bah is a bad poster. He makes dubious statements which he then refuses to support or admit where wrong when presented with counter arguments. He does this EVERYWHERE and he should not have been unbanned when I was demodded from PU.

4. People aren't using me as an example you pompous ass because I know to to provide evidence for my position and respond to attackers.

5. Because I'm ****ing delightful.
Hi Kerowo,

I do not know the history of bahbah but would like to know. I think I remember hearing he was not welcome in the main politics forum.

Did you perma him?

who unbanned him and why?

I don't see anything in his user notes
12-19-2017 , 06:00 PM
Kerowo and wookie being mods were the worst thing to happen to any political thread on 2+2 ever and that includes the 9/11 and sandy hook deniers. At least these deniers are ignored.

Sad to say, but if I got banned from a forum for not playing nice with the others it wouldn't be the most pathetic thing I've been for on 2+2.

I've been banned for saying "make america great again" 15ish times over a decently long time frame in the trump thread.

I've also got a temp "racist ban" for saying 7 words in a thread. The 7 words were "Barrack Obama doesn't care about white people" in a thread about obama starting a coalition, group or something like that that was supposed to help AA males (a very worthy cause for the most discriminated against group in the US, IMO). It was a joke based off of kenye saying that bush didn't care about black people after katrina. Sadly even after the joke was explained to the mod he still said it was racist. When asked why he said something along the lines of how he thought some people think all African American men were angry and he assumed I was one of those people because I was suggesting obama was angry. It is obviously a huge jump to conclusion but when you have mods hunting for you don't think they aren't going to make some **** up to ban you.
12-19-2017 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Bah Bah is a perfect example of how Right Wing Posters say things. Does anything think Bah Bah is getting **** on because he is Conservative? Would his posts have been more acceptable if they were equivalent Liberal points? No, he's just a bad poster. This is the problem with the current Politics forum system, the conservatives are just god awful posters who get run off for being horrible posters and confuse that with having conservative view.
There are literally mods on 2+2 who believe all people from across the aisle are bad posters. How is this not a de-modable offense? He literally just said all conservatives are awful posters. Are we supposed to assume a mod who openly hates one side doesn't discriminate against the other side?

Last edited by bahbahmickey; 12-19-2017 at 06:13 PM.
12-19-2017 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
Hi Kerowo,

I do not know the history of bahbah but would like to know. I think I remember hearing he was not welcome in the main politics forum.

Did you perma him?

who unbanned him and why?

I don't see anything in his user notes
I, like many conservatives before and after me, have left or were banned from P & PU. In my case I was banned. I was mainly banned for saying "make america great again" in the trump thread as well as arguing that saying "make america great again" isn't a bannable offense. Ker Jung Owo does not take kindly to people questioning his position as mod or what he is allowed to ban people for. I was PMed a list of things I was not allowed to say in PU by Ker Jung Owo and for weeks he would push my buttons until I basically said F-it I'm going to defend myself.

There is a thread on 2+2 somewhere in PU that discussed the spat between me and Mr. Owo at great lengths. It was fairly one sided so I don't think Mr. Owo will link it for you to let you hear the people on my side and let your form your own opinion. I look forward to hearing his side of the story though (running to get popcorn now).
12-19-2017 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
Hi Kerowo,

I do not know the history of bahbah but would like to know. I think I remember hearing he was not welcome in the main politics forum.

Did you perma him?

who unbanned him and why?

I don't see anything in his user notes
I assume he was banned from Politics for being BahBah. I permed him because he wouldn't follow the rules I had to make up for him in PU.

I always assume Chez was responsible everything bad that happened in PU but essentially it was decided that the bans of a demodded mod where free to be overturned at pretty much anyone's request and so we got posters like Bah Bah back...
12-19-2017 , 06:10 PM
12-19-2017 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
There are literally mods on 2+2 who believe all people from other political parties from them are bad posters. How is this not a de-modable offense? He literally just said all conservatives are awful posters.
<sigh> No, I said the conservative posters who have been run off from Politics have been horrible posters.
12-19-2017 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I, like many conservatives before and after me, have left or were banned from P & PU. In my case I was banned. I was mainly banned for saying "make america great again" in the trump thread as well as arguing that saying "make america great again" isn't a bannable offense. Ker Jung Owo does not take kindly to people questioning his position as mod or what he is allowed to ban people for. I was PMed a list of things I was not allowed to say in PU by Ker Jung Owo and for weeks he would push my buttons until I basically said F-it I'm going to defend myself.

There is a thread on 2+2 somewhere in PU that discussed the spat between me and Mr. Owo at great lengths. It was fairly one sided so I don't think Mr. Owo will link it for you to let you hear the people on my side and let your form your own opinion. I look forward to hearing his side of the story though (running to get popcorn now).
I suppose I have to go over this again since you keep posting this bull**** every time. You were banned after you refused to stop posting a signature on your posts. At any time in the process all you had to do was what was asked of you and you wouldn't have been banned. Instead you thought it would be fun to **** around with the mod. That's always had positive results.

      
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