yes... you can

Here:

sounds about right

isn't gambit a mod there? why doesn't his opinion matter?

Might as well put a blast out to all the P7 scum. "Hey guys, come on down to POG politics! Tell us about how the jews control the media! Espouse your thoughts on how Hillary Clinton personally jammed a gun into the mouth of Seth Rich and blew him away! Regale us with your stories of the grief actors at Sandy Hook! Look at those lying mother****ers crying over their fake dead children! All are welcome, It's the wild ****ing west!"

so after bahbah is gone, who is your next target lol?

If it were up to me, VMF would still participate in POG Politics/POG Games.

so VMF gone, bahbahmicky gone, and yes I understand micky isn't a long standing POG game player, who is now days?

As a "Mod" increasing games is a priority, will he join a game? maybe... as long as he doesn't break 2p2 rules, I don't give a fk if he posts his political views. If there is even a 1/10th chance he joins a ww game/sheep game, who cares?

POG needs more activity, more games, more players. I'm trying, and excluding people who want to post here isn't the answer. <3

gambit's opinion very much matters to me, is there a reason you think it doesn't?

feel free to answer here or we can start a private communication on discord with all the POG mods + you, have it setup already. Let me know.

in the op he was quoted, agreeing that one of the posters in that thread is disruptive.

Dear Mat,

I think this kind of says all that needs to be said about your moderator's judgement on these issues.

Mat - to be clear he's talking about a different poster in that quote (apologies if that's misleading), but the same logic applies with that poster and mickey. I was trying to emphasise that he agreed that the POG Politics thread was intended to be for poggers to talk politics and not for randoms who have nothing to do with POG.

DWetzel is the voice of reason, you should mod him.

I thought it was a site-wide rule, I could be wrong.

To more fully answer the question "what's wrong with conspiracy theories?": they in general tend often run afoul of basic good taste, are often antisemitic, and are 100% of the time really dumb topics that turn to pure AIDS. If POG politics is a free-for-all where anything goes, then fine, you guys do your thing. Obv, I don't post there, so my opinion shouldn't carry too much weight here.

Conspiracy theory sites are the scum of the ****ing internet, That's the problem. By hosting them here (and lol at "prove them wrong." The whole point of conspiracy theories is that no matter what proof you provide the theorist uses it as proof they are right) you are submitting your proposal that 2+2 be filed under the same scumbait mess as stormfront and infowars. Maybe the actual mods of the site have some thoughts on whether they want to show up on Google's front page when somebody searches for "Sandy Hook fake dead kids."

I agree.

I mean, what could possibly be odios or repugnant about asserting that democratic leadership is systematically raping little children and then cooking and eating them.

how could it possibly be offensive to repeatedly state that a massacre of 20+ children is fake and that the parents of these murdered kids are actors who are benefiting somehow.

and is there really any issues with repeating that george soros and a cabal of leading jews is funding protests, and organizing false flag attacks such as the heahter heyer attack, and funding a deep state apparatus to delegitimize the good christian united states society.

and, clearly if someone is not able to use LOGIC to debunk such theories, then that makes them legitimate and worthwhile. and I can see no problems with such ideas being discussed and accepted on this board.

get a grip man, holy ****

go on netflix, there are conspiracy theory shows

should they be banned?

they are just ideas/opinions/bull****

ignore them or debate them

don't silence them, they don't harm anyone.

This doesn't strike me as an ATF issue, yet. If the pog mods want that thread open to everyone, that's up to them. It is necessary for them to agree on the policy, however.


There are no specific site-wide rules. There are only general rules which individual moderators may interpret on their own. Once, in unchained, I said sandy hook conspiracies wouldn't be allowed. That was the extent of that rule from me.

Kruze seems to want this. I do not think most poggers want this, and I particularly object to non-poggers specifically coming to POG to peddle their ****posting when they've been banned from doing it in other politics threads.

ok cool, I've pestered gambit/jm3 to go talk to Kruze and hash something out

The POG politics thread exists for a good reason as Bloo outlined in the OP (to contain politics discussions). If we agree with that reason for existence it seems pretty clear cut that only POGgers should be posting there. If you don’t participate in other places on POG you are not at risk for clogging it up.

As far as “why bahbah and not kerwo” question that seems like common sense. I don’t think any of us have a huge problem with the occasional passerby dipping their toe in for a week or two worth of discussion in the hopes they may like the POG community and become a party of it. But that is clearly not what bahbah is doing.

I'm not your enemy, this is all based around the POG Politics thread. Do you think it is best served to lock the POG Politics thread?

Regarding the POG Politics thread, I simply allow all views from left/right/ect so long as they don't break official 2p2 rules.

If you truly feel lack of any POG Politic thread would be best, I would consider discussing locking it and directing posters to the official 2p2 Politics sub forums.

I consider your opinion in high regard, I don't write you off in anyway and very much appreciate all you have contributed to POG and your statements.

It's not an easy situation. I want to allow all sides with no bias in a discussion regarding Politics. I don't want to exclude posters simply because "they aren't POGGERS" that doesn't sit well with me. I've been told bahbahmicky has been banned from other political sub forums, but not ONE TIME has anyone shown any proof or reason why he was banned from other sub forums.. nobody has reached out to communicate to me why he shouldn't be allowed to post regarding politics, and I'm supposed to just somehow magically recognize his name and insta ban him? Nope. Sorry.

I have given bahbahmicky the benefit of the doubt, as far as I have seen he has not broke any 2p2 rules, the only complaints/reports I get against him is because "he was banned somewhere else, why can he post here?"

He has posted what I believe to be thought out posts, and while some of you may disagree with them, It's not my place. He hasn't broke forum rules and I'm a neutral mod.

Tl;dr

Nuke the LOLPOG politics thread and all of the people that post there from orbit

no, and I have no idea why you'd think I want that
why?

the thread is literally there for poggers to discuss politics

that is the purpose of the thread

if non-poggers want to discuss politics there is literally an entire ****ing forum for them to do that

so why do we have to let them come spew their nonsense in our thread?

about ten poggers have now told you variations on this, I don't know why you feel that your vision for the thread being some super secret underground free-for-all debating chamber takes precedence over the view of most other poggers who just want somewhere for poggers to talk politics

Given that a number of users have raised this very specific issue with you, I will ask this very simple question:

When you asked the other mods in the mod forum about why he was banned from the other forums, what response did the moderators who banned him from the other forums give you?

The onus isn't on the user to provide you this stuff, because the user specifically doesn't have access to all this stuff in the first place. The user can only bring up these general issues. You (and the other mods) are the one with the specific tools and connections to investigate properly. In fact, that's the whole point of having mods.

If you can't take that very basic step then, with all due respect, why are you a mod?

This was my post in the Discord chat on the subject on November 4th [edited a tiny bit for sloppy phone posting]:

Don't know the details, but if someone is actively making things worse for regulars & making them not want to post, that's a problem, especially with the low likelihood they'll actually become players. But yeah, keeping people out of the forum because they aren't forum regulars would be bad.

I won't put words into his mouth, but I believe gambit agreed with that position. That is still my opinion.

Puzzles why do you incessantly threaten to lock the POG politics thread? Does it bother you that other people like posting there? I feel like for the past year you have threatened to do it like 20 times just based on your mood.

I never signed up to be a politics mod.

I would be in favor of simply locking the POG Politics thread and directing any Political discussion to the official 2p2 Politics sub forums except for the selfish reasoning that I feel I can personally mod a politics thread that accepts all views.

My seemingly fault, is I feel I can host such a forum where all sides can contribute, with new posters never seen before, they want to post... they post.

I welcome all words, sentences and paragraphs so long as they don't break official 2p2 rules.