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12-19-2017 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
this is an admission that the "pog community" is purely a pretextual argument for excluding someone whom you simply find annoying

how many "right wingers" are there in the pog thread? 4?

maybe you want a "democratic exclusion" rule with a "pog-member immunity"?
eh?

- non-poggers shouldn't be posting in the thread
- poggers are more likely to complain about non-poggers posting in the thread if they're annoying
- therefore I'd expect a few non-annoying non-poggers to fly under the radar, but would support them being excluded if anyone raised the issue

think you're overthinking this, I was commenting on how forum rules tend to be enforced only if the person is breaking a rule and also annoying people while doing so
12-19-2017 , 12:15 PM
I strongly agree that forum rules should be enforced.

Is there a POG forum rule that only POGgers can post in non-game threads on POG?


If FlyWf decided to drop some truth bombs in the Werewolf LC thread, would that send people into a tizzy?
12-19-2017 , 12:16 PM
I consider the POG Politics thread kind of a secret underground chamber which is open to anyone that wants to participate... Views from all sides are allowed to be posted regardless if you are on the left or right. If people disagree on things, they can either debate those topics they disagree with, or they can ignore eachother if they can't work it out (Just because you are on the left, and other is on the right, or if you are on the right, and other is on the left, I'm not your tool to silence/ban the other).

Not for one second in this civil situation does any type of banning come to my mind. I don't give a **** if you signed up on 2p2 today, if you post in POG Politics thread or anywhere I mod, I will 100% allow your voice to be heard and will not take any action unless you violate official 2p2 rules.
12-19-2017 , 12:17 PM
god I'm getting flashbacks to the Baldur's Gate game where I was a modpeeked villager and ianaww was still tinfoiling that I was an omeganeutral
12-19-2017 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Am I not right?

He did not get banned for posting malicious or mean-spirited things.

In fact your post is omitting (not purposedly I am sure) his numerous infractions, his bans from several subforums, his well-documented conspiracy theory posts, etc etc.

So no, you are not right, VMF should not be free.
12-19-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
god I'm getting flashbacks to the Baldur's Gate game where I was a modpeeked villager and ianaww was still tinfoiling that I was an omeganeutral
the rampant misuse of "omega" in ww games might be my single greatest WW pet peeve
12-19-2017 , 12:21 PM
Personally I don't understand exactly why VMF was banned. I don't remember seeing him breaking any black-letter rules.

I assume it has something to do with his patterned, willful refusal to adhere to mod instructions.
12-19-2017 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
-Kawamii was a terrible player/poster. No regrets
I'm not here to re-litigate all of these issues.

Every single respected, long-time member of POG disagreed with the handling of the Kawamii situation. By saying you have no regrets, you simply affirm my point that you have terrible judgment and don't give a **** about what anyone but you thinks.

And justifying yourself by arguing that she was a "terrible poster" merely highlights your complete hypocrisy and lack of standards. You were perfectly willing to sanction a poster you disliked for whatever reason you saw fit, but when it comes to ****ty posters in the Politics thread you instead adopt the stance that you can't intervene whatsoever unless they violate the sacred universal sitewide rules. This is complete and utter bull****: the reason you don't want to intervene is because you yourself only contribute to the Politics thread via no-content trolling, so you think it's fine to allow everyone else the opportunity to post as badly as you do.
12-19-2017 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
He did not get banned for posting malicious or mean-spirited things.

In fact your post is omitting (not purposedly I am sure) his numerous infractions, his bans from several subforums, his well-documented conspiracy theory posts, etc etc.

So no, you are not right, VMF should not be free.
What's wrong with conspiracy theories though? Prove them wrong or ignore?

I find them interesting even if they are proven wrong.

Actually prove them wrong though, don't just ban the person that is presenting them just for the sake of "zomg conspiracy theory".

I will read every theory and make my own judgement, If someone posted a theory of a 50 foot long crab that only eats cotton candy, I wouldn't yell for people to stop posting or talking about it, I would make my own judgement, so trying to silence someone just because you don't agree with what they say is simply pathetic.
12-19-2017 , 12:30 PM
And this is why we can't have nice things.

Last edited by confirmedtroll; 12-19-2017 at 12:31 PM. Reason: E.g. the POG mod starting his argumentation with "what's wrong with conspiracy theories, though?"
12-19-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
What's wrong with conspiracy theories though? Prove them wrong or ignore?
IIRC from the PU fiasco, tptb supposedly had instituted a hard and fast rule specifically against Sandy Hook trutherism. Whether that rule was appropriate or ever enforced anywhere outside politardia, I don't know.
12-19-2017 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
I'm not here to re-litigate all of these issues.

Every single respected, long-time member of POG disagreed with the handling of the Kawamii situation. By saying you have no regrets, you simply affirm my point that you have terrible judgment and don't give a **** about what anyone but you thinks.

And justifying yourself by arguing that she was a "terrible poster" merely highlights your complete hypocrisy and lack of standards. You were perfectly willing to sanction a poster you disliked for whatever reason you saw fit, but when it comes to ****ty posters in the Politics thread you instead adopt the stance that you can't intervene whatsoever unless they violate the sacred universal sitewide rules. This is complete and utter bull****: the reason you don't want to intervene is because you yourself only contribute to the Politics thread via no-content trolling, so you think it's fine to allow everyone else the opportunity to post as badly as you do.
Oh you're trying to be some type of lawyer. Must be serious for yah.

Well soah, I dare you present the case to take away this high paying job modding POG responsibility.

I've done it for 3 years, so you must have a very solid piece of evidence to strip me of my "powers" that I don't abuse, and honestly have simply used to allow more people to post.

Wait this is a foruM?!?!? omg lol, I should limit the people who are allowed to post here!!!!!!!!!!

If I'm demodded, I hope you have an approved list of people who are allowed to post lol. Because I simply stand by anyone is allowed to post unless they break official 2p2 rules. Crying/post reporting that someone is speaking their view in POG Politics but they haven't played (for example 4 sheep games) makes me laugh out loud.

Post all you want in POG, if you don't break official 2p2 rules, I won't touch you.

Cheers.
12-19-2017 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
Post all you want in POG, if you don't break official 2p2 rules, I won't touch you, unless you play werewolf games with me and I decide you're a bad player like Kawamii
fixed that for ya
12-19-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Vmf should still be free.

Guy never once posted anything malicious or mean-spirited as far as I saw.
You sound like the director of the next Fantastic Beasts movie. "Well I’ve never personally seen Johnny Depp beat anyone, so it’s hard to accept he’s done so when others say he has, even if they have video showing it’s true!"
12-19-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
IIRC from the PU fiasco, tptb supposedly had instituted a hard and fast rule specifically against Sandy Hook trutherism. Whether that rule was appropriate or ever enforced anywhere outside politardia, I don't know.
Never followed Politics Unchained

I'm actually not really interested in "Politics" at all.

I simply believe that as long as people post words, that don't violate official 2p2 forum rules, you have a few options.

1.) Reply civily

2.) Passive Ignore

3.) Functional Ignore.

If the poster "in question" doesn't violate official 2p2 rules, I REFUSE to "ban" someone simply because others disagree or cry/complain.
12-19-2017 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
fixed that for ya
Can't speak for yourself? Have to edit my words to make some weird incorrect statement? Pathetic.
12-19-2017 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
Can't speak for yourself? Have to edit my words to make some weird incorrect statement? SAD!
FYP
12-19-2017 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Loki
You sound like the director of the next Fantastic Beasts movie. "Well I’ve never personally seen Johnny Depp beat anyone, so it’s hard to accept he’s done so when others say he has, even if they have video showing it’s true!"
All I know is what I saw and how I judge his character to be through the medium of text.

I think running to atf like he did at various points probably shows a lack of judgement. I'm sure various other things too. I never saw why he was exiled from sporting events or wherever else.
12-19-2017 , 12:49 PM
soah post what you said about me before I was a 2p2 mod.

I won't do it because it feels irresponsible to simply post. It is something that should come from you if you choose.
12-19-2017 , 12:50 PM
it's a thread about me let it all out
12-19-2017 , 12:51 PM
The ignore function on this site is useless and solves nothing.
12-19-2017 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by amplify
The ignore function on this site is useless and solves nothing.
Only if you have no self control.

You don't even need an actual ignore function to ignore someone, just your mind.
12-19-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
Only if you have no self control.

You don't even need an actual ignore function to ignore someone, just your mind.
or if you don't want to see posts from the person that you are ignoring.

I can ignore the whole ****ing site bro if I don't like the way things are.
12-19-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
Here's a simple question:

Given that we have a Politics forum already, what differentiates the POG Politics thread from it, such that we need to have both of them?

The obvious and correct answer is "it's for regulars of POG to discuss these things".

If it's not that, then why do we need the thread at all?


(The current difference in reality, which Kruze has seen fit to promote, is that "it's for people who have been exiled from every other politics forum on the site for ****-posting to continue ****-posting in the exact same manner". Which, if you think about it, is pretty much a slap in the face to every other mod that did the banning in the first place.)



And to address IANAWW's point, he's right, insofar as kerowo ought to not be in there either.
I've asked this question before and told that the Politics thread exists to keep politics out of pub (another thread bahbah hasn't posted in). If we nuke the Politics thread from orbit does bahbah start posting politics in Pub? Probably Not, but I sure as hell would. Might be something to consider
12-19-2017 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I really think the salient point should be that bahbah has been posting for a year and a half.

Why now?
I've been telling him no one cares and to gtfo for the entire time. I was in politics and p7 during his active times. Yes an abhorrent **** poster that doesn't inspire nor contribute to conversation

      
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