I do like poker a lot, too.

hmmmm

OK I will explore your site and keep an open mind and ease off the gas pedal politically. Thanks for responding.

Even just temporarily giving me Wookie's mod slot would be both hilarious and productive, but I'm sure there would be a revolt if that happened, so nevermind.

Of course!

I'm fine with a focus on the behavior and not the religion.

I really am not bigoted against Islam and am genuinely sorry I have come across that way in the past.

that's on you

I said what I said, not what you're saying I said

starting to notice a pattern with you where when I don't say the words you want to respond to you just make **** up so you can respond the way you prefer

Your saying there are no moderate Muslims is bigotry at its finest.

Let's not threadjack. Let's have this conversation in the thread of your choice.

It's getting you clicks and views and if it results in people browsing the poker side who otherwise would not have done so, all the better for your bottom line.

And no person in the right mind is going to hold you accountable for some outrageously unacceptable thing some anonymous internet troll says, especially given that you have a robust set of volunteer moderators on top of everything. This thread may have grown out of a desire to clean up that moderation, but it still remains if anyone could facilitate this operation it's you and your website here.

A poker analogy: I much prefer Omaha, but I suck at it compared to how well I play Holdem. So I play Holdem and look wistfully across the room at the omaha table as I sigh and stack my holdem chips. You prefer poker discussions on your site compared to politics because it is so seemingly flammable, I get it. But you're good at both, which is even better than what I can say about my ability to play different types/games of poker.

Oh hai.

The claim was that echo chambers were "abhorrent." No qualification was made about how they were labeled.

Meanwhile, you didn't face any moderation in your brief stint, but I guess you want to argue that conservatives need a warning label that they might face uncomfortable levels of disagreement with their ideas?

Yeah I thought explicit bigotry was against site rules. The Rs (on this board and irl) want to spew vile BS but need a safe space when called out for their vile BS or when you call them racists after they drop some thinly/not so thinly veiled racism.

And the dodge commences. You are nothing but a troll. You've been asked this across numerous threads and you never answer.

because you don't have an answer. Your default setting is "haha liberals" which does nothing for anyone. You're dishonest, gfy.

It would probably be a paragon of civil discourse, actually. Seriously.

I volunteer to help with it if this idea is ever approved.

By paragon of civil discourse, he means it would be an online KKK rally.

There are no moderately pregnant women, either. Nothing wrong with just being pregnant!

The only one who seems to need a safe space from what half the country supports is you!

Since you conflate the entire Republican electorate with the KKK...

*shrugs*

Uh huh, so you were just saying that all muslim people are just... super muslim, right? What exactly does that entail to you? Do you think its impossible to be moderate in any religion? Is there no such thing as a moderate jew, someone who doesnt follow the Torah to the letter? Hell, wouldn't anybody who doesnt follow their book exactly as written be more moderate than those who don't? Your attempt to walk back your bigotry just makes you seem really stupid

This coming from the person who said "There are no moderate Muslims just like there are no moderate KKK members"

Just disgusting.

Not all of them. Just the 70-75% (or whatever the number is) that currently approve of Trump. The same 70-75% that continue to vote for and support openly bigoted platforms. There are moderate conservatives, thought they're few and far between.

THERES NO SUCH THING AS A MODERATE ANYTHING, DDUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Ahh, so you're not literate that would explain a lot.

I figured.

You won't answer this either, because I'm right.

Well, obviously what I'm saying wouldn't fix the complaint that echo chambers are inherently bad. BUT, that's just one poster saying that it seems. From what I've seen reading ATF over time, most of the complaints about you are simply complaining that you're biased to the left.

Those people I think should clearly be moving over to P7. I've said that repeatedly, that those folks are stupid to keep banging their head against the wall complaining about you, when you've made your position clear, and Mat has made his position clear that he's not removing you.

You've been open here with your moderation position, so you should just throw it in the sticky. Spell it out that as a matter of policy the moderation tilts left. Explain that the views you oppose, or even that the views of the 46% of American voters who voted for Donald Trump*, are inherently illegitimate to be posted in the forum and will not be tolerated.

So many of the complaints about your forum hinge on an unspoken assumption that the forum should be open to a wide range of views in a free debate (likewise the complaints we get about RedState do the same). But there's no reason your forum *has* to be that way.

* I stayed home. Both sides hate people like me. 4chan's /pol/ tried to SWAT me at one point, and I had to file a report with ACPD.

The problem is conservatives don't come looking for free debate, we just aren't getting those folks in P. We get the idiots like Zork, and Sushy who aren't actually interested in discussion only in trolling. Conservative trolls are given too much rope as it is, particularly from a lefty mod like Wookiee who needs to go. The complaints about biased treatment are just fake news.