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No personal attacks on 2+2 anymore. No personal attacks on 2+2 anymore.

03-11-2022 , 06:29 AM
Although I will obviously abide by the rules, I rather like a bit of virulent personal abuse even if it is directed towards me.
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03-11-2022 , 06:34 AM
I also agree with the above posts that there is a big difference between trolling someone who obviously has problems and having a heated argument in which harsh words are spoken.
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03-11-2022 , 08:30 PM
I think anyone who doesn't refer to me by my chosen personal pronoun should aslo be banned.


I go by "Your Eminence".
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03-11-2022 , 08:39 PM
Good one.
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03-19-2022 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrii Plakhotnyi
Hello, everyone!

As a part of our long-term strategy to build a brand of a place for intelligent discussions about poker, we will no longer tolerate personal attacks on 2+2. All posts containing a personal attack should be deleted. We encourage all 2+2'ers to report such posts and we will take actions as fast as possible. We will monitor whether the change plays out and revert it if necessary.

Your feedback is welcome.
This is bs. I've been attacked about 50 times and mods have done nothing but give me infractions for defending myself.

In a previous heated post, i reached out to a mod for nearly two days until action was taken. And instead of infracting the multiple posters attacking me, he just shut down the thread.

Practice what you preach is all I ask
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03-19-2022 , 03:27 PM
I refer you to post #76 ITT. And you do not know what mod actions were taken other than your own infraction, but I assure you that your assessment is incorrect. Multiple people have heard from me on their posting in the thread you referenced, from friendly reminders to infractions, depending on severity and patterns of behavior. Stop "defending yourself" by pretending that two wrongs make a right and you will find the mods much less likely to "pick on you."

As for the time factor, sorry I wasn't fast enough for you, but mods don't live on the forum 24/7. I was on vacation last week.
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03-19-2022 , 03:28 PM
Weird. I just searched the mod thread where ALL post reports are and couldn't find a single post report from you. You'd think if you had been attacked 50 times you would have reported some of those posts if you expect something to be done about them.
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03-19-2022 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
Weird. I just searched the mod thread where ALL post reports are and couldn't find a single post report from you. You'd think if you had been attacked 50 times you would have reported some of those posts if you expect something to be done about them.
if you testify against the mob they'll go after your family, better to just take the abuse and let your daughter enjoy her prom without fear of kidnapping
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03-19-2022 , 03:59 PM
true that
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03-19-2022 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BCloud
This is bs. I've been attacked about 50 times and mods have done nothing but give me infractions for defending myself.

In a previous heated post, i reached out to a mod for nearly two days until action was taken. And instead of infracting the multiple posters attacking me, he just shut down the thread.

Practice what you preach is all I ask
**** you
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03-19-2022 , 05:42 PM
I am happy to see this rule. I am probably not alone as a pg&c poster whose thread had been mired in trolling for a while, prompting a lot of reports and occasional (unwise) retorts to the trolls to defend my character in a forum that has attracted many people who know who I know IRL. Pg&c is not a place where anyone wants to be trolled because we are sharing our lives and ambitions with other people - mostly strangers - voluntarily for little in return other than occasional encouragement. I have been open about my mental health struggles which may have prompted more attacks as well. I have closed the thread at least once and taken breaks from posting due to these attacks.

Since this rule was announced, I have noticed very few if any trolling comments and this has made the quality of the thread 100% better, not to mention increased my interest in continuing to post and decreased the emotional distress of seeing people libel me and others like me. Thank you.
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03-19-2022 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by marknfw
Weird. I just searched the mod thread where ALL post reports are and couldn't find a single post report from you. You'd think if you had been attacked 50 times you would have reported some of those posts if you expect something to be done about them.
It seems a lot of people think that mods see every post. That might be the case in some of the quieter forums, but even then I suspect most mods do not read every post.

It sounds like in this case, the mod is well aware of the thread in question, and has been taking action. But even in threads where mods are fairly active, it can sometimes be helpful to report posts. Some mods tend to let things go more (I do this sometimes) when it's a bit of good-natured ribbing, and sometimes even when it gets a bit worse - it really depends on the forum, and what the community is like. In those cases, a mod might scroll through some posts without thinking twice, unaware that some posters feel they are out of line. I think post reports are almost always helpful, as long as a poster is reporting in good faith (IE not doing so simply to spite a poster, or a mod), and not doing so excessively (for example, reporting 10 posts in a row in the same thread).

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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
I am happy to see this rule. I am probably not alone as a pg&c poster whose thread had been mired in trolling for a while, prompting a lot of reports and occasional (unwise) retorts to the trolls to defend my character in a forum that has attracted many people who know who I know IRL. Pg&c is not a place where anyone wants to be trolled because we are sharing our lives and ambitions with other people - mostly strangers - voluntarily for little in return other than occasional encouragement. I have been open about my mental health struggles which may have prompted more attacks as well. I have closed the thread at least once and taken breaks from posting due to these attacks.

Since this rule was announced, I have noticed very few if any trolling comments and this has made the quality of the thread 100% better, not to mention increased my interest in continuing to post and decreased the emotional distress of seeing people libel me and others like me. Thank you.
Interesting. This rule hasn't changed anything in PG&C as far as what posters can do, but perhaps a few trolls saw the announcement and dialed it down. It also may have helped that we have (quite recently) added a mod to the roster.

Almost all modding in PG&C happens based on post reports, which is why I believe we have threads that look very different in terms of what is tolerated; it seems some posters are happy to engage in a little mud-slinging in their own threads, while others (very understandably) are not.
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03-19-2022 , 08:30 PM
I think BCloud is talking about a thread in CCP, that I never read until well after the fact and dinesh was away all weekend.
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03-19-2022 , 08:51 PM
Are we not going to talk about the elephant in the room? There is a worldwide embargo against Russians. Shouldn't the new owners of 2+2 be cancelled and banned? I feel personally attacked just knowing that the Russians are controlling this forum.


Keenly waiting your response.
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04-06-2022 , 03:35 PM
I personally think that only racist/misogyny type posts should be ban worthy. Other than that I am certainly capable of responding to offensive posts aimed at myself, and I would expect others to do the same.
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04-06-2022 , 09:41 PM
A very prescient post
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04-06-2022 , 11:58 PM
Haha, wow.
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04-07-2022 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
A very prescient post
Mad skillz, g
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04-23-2022 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Adjusted
Are we not going to talk about the elephant in the room? There is a worldwide embargo against Russians. Shouldn't the new owners of 2+2 be cancelled and banned? I feel personally attacked just knowing that the Russians are controlling this forum.


Keenly waiting your response.
You being squeezed hard by that elephant ? wtf do they have to do with Putin, or holding a russian passport is somehow their fault ( not that there is anything wrong with that, i thought they were ukraininans), posters like you should be the first on the ban list, who cares what passports people hold , typical racist ****, oh but i bet you'd have a lot to say if someone mentioned transgender rights.
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04-23-2022 , 04:35 PM
if party a were to tell party b that he was acting closeted and party b called party a "pervert" in response, does that constitute a personal attack?
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