Fair enough.

Hang on - I'm the point in question, I didn't break any of the rules yet I'm still permanently banned from P because, simply put, Wookie doesn't like me (probably because of the thread started in ATF).

You are a bad poster.

My exile proves his point.

It has absolutely nothing to do with racism, sexism or any other inciteful language the lefties want to argue that they think is being used. It simply comes down to an intolerance on their part of posters who are able to sustain alternative arguments (mainly on the right) from the ones that mainstream progressives and liberals promote.

All this talk about them banning views that are racist and sexist and whatever else is just a protective veil for the utopia that they have created and overseen by Wookie.

And to anyone's argument that conservative posters still post there (what the handful compared to the hundreds of lefties - lol) and as I've argued before, they are there on the main grounds that it legitimises their forum and that the points they raise are quite tradionally and well known views but don't think if they do cross that line (and it still isn't the same line as it would be for a lefty - I mean look at rep's ban for that infamous inciteful post), that they wouldn't just turn around and ban them for something that really is innocuous.

The reason behind your exile (posting exclusively to crap on Muslims) is already against the rules in well named's proposed new forum. If you posted in a new forum the same way you posted in P, he's already told you via the rules that the same result will happen to you.

You standing behind the new forum, which outlaws your behavior, proves that your exile was just!

edit:

"Sustain" is an interesting word choice since you would post something dumb and then disappear from the forum rather than bother defending it, basically the opposite of "sustaining" anything

This thread exists to discuss the idea of a new forum and get feedback from 2+2 users on the idea. You are welcome and encouraged to share your opinion on that subject.

I'd like to see less posting on the subject of so-and-so being a bad poster. Some of it is inevitable given the topic, but that horse is well and truly beaten already.

ok. my opinion is that it's a ****ing stupid idea and i'm just as likely to post in it as i was in 7.0 (note: i didnt post in there, because debating disingenuous racist man-children with logic and facts which they already contort/reject isn't a clever thought experiment, it's a complete waste of time)

Perfect. Please also vote in the poll, if you haven't already

El Diablo's point should have pretty much ended this thread. If there is an actual issue with the moderation in politics (Mat doesn't seem to think there is) let's address it. Absent of an actual issue, creating a new forum to cater to bad posters is a bad idea and people supporting it should feel bad.

That's not how things actually work here. Have you discussed your ban from that forum with an admin? As someone who formerly modded a very high traffic forum on this site, I know if you have it has been discussed with Wookie and likely the entire mod forum. If that happened and it hasn't been reversed then that means the admins of this site agree with Wookie's moderation and you're in the wrong on this one.

It really is that straightforward.

I think this would be true of any (mostly) anonymous internet forum. We can only hope that someday the current politics forum can rise to the level of BBV4L.

point proven. i'm apparently highly and blatantly racist on a forum that doesn't tolerate highly or blatantly racist posts. if either of your claims were true, i would have been banned. and of course, you are far too busy to actually provide evidence just like the hysterical mob of nazi hunters that spent the last week getting threads locked and compassionately telling people who had relatives die at the hands of nazis that their relatives were actually nazis

you were probably simple to begin with but this is the danger of operating in an echo chamber. the narrative has become hysterical, absurd, and completely detached from reality. if you want to disprove that, feel free to back your claims. 2p2 is an actual transcript of what i have and have not said on 2p2

how long after any of my posts does it take for you to respond? do you have some sort of bat signal or obsession? its very weird

anyways this kind of highlights the point. a poster with a young daughter posted that they would stop a person with a penis from following his daughter in to a womens washroom. instead of allowing that poster to think, or be wrong, or be concerned about his daughters safety over the feelings of someone with gender dysphoria, or an awkward moment with a drunk on halloween, that poster was hysterically labelled a transphobe who wants to assault trans, etc etc. the call for banning. its just hysteria. people should be allowed to think and speak without this absurd nonsense. you dont need to agree with them or their conclusions but the immediate jump to transphobia and banning is just lol

people should be allowed to be concerned about who follows their pre teen daughter in to a washroom. some could argue thats actually good parenting

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/19...-bathroom.html

He started a thread about it that basically led to this thread.

How is jumping to conclusions about groups of people based solely on looks good parenting?

fox news links ITT

this doesn't bode well.

Jfc

[ ] on thread topic
[ ] content
[ ] actual counter arguments
[x] a mob
[x] the usual suspects

One of those compassionate nazi hunters was a certain Politics forum mod, by the way.

Yes im batman.
Have never called for anyone to be banned or anything anyone has written to be removed. Shine that light of day.

I agree people should be allowed to express their views without nonsense like the above. If you dont like me thinking something or even someone is bigoted or racist or sexist and expressing that. To bad?


But WN wants this thread about a possible new forum so...You sure you want to do that?

Matt saw everything so it was handled the way they felt it should have been handled. im not sure theres anything that needs to be said about that. posts were deleted and the thread got locked so its pretty obvious it wasn't appreciated but even though nothing really happened, thats not to say it hasn't opened some eyes

Greg,


I think the different community forums made sense when OOT was way higher volume and there wasn’t enough opportunity for various different types of threads/discussion to flourish. That’s no longer the case, so I think it would be better for 2p2 to collapse the community forums back together. Except bbv4l. That’s its own unique thing that defies definition!

I haven’t yet seen a compelling (to me) rationale for a second politics forum, but sure I could hypothetically see a reason like one focused exclusively on discussions of a more academic nature.

A lot of posters were asking for you to get the boot for a long time before he banned you. Id say given the heat you gave him from others bugging him he was kind of compassionate. In a lot of other forums on 2p2 you would not of lasted as long pissing of the regs.

Sure. But I did cut and paste the actual posts just in case they got deleted. Which they did. If anyone wants proof I can provide it on request. Although I would probably have to run it by well named first as they were deleted posts.

Unlike a lot of people around here I am prepared to back up my claims.