None, who needs this crap?

Well, obviously you do. Seeing as you contributed a lot of it.

I mean it's been quite obvious from early on that most of the low level discourse itt has been initiated by Politics forum regs in an attempt to stop the new forum going from ahead. The problem is though that most of you aren't very smart, so you come off looking far worse than us exiles.

LOL

Glad it finally is acknowledged science minded people are leaning to the liberal-left (USA perspective). In addition to being the morally right choice it's also the most rational one.

Conservatism is too hard. At least the dehumanizing one in the States. It's generally not quite as bad in Europe. Except for the populist ones of course. Maybe the presence of a real left for a long time has softened the mainstream conservatives up?

There was a once semi-famous quote that I cant find reference to anymore or recall the source. I think it was UK Tory MP who frustrated with academics and intellectuals lamented without a trace of irony, words to the effect of:

Yes, but the right leads in self-proclaimed geniuses who got their diplomas from YouTube University, such as VMF

An example of the type of person Sushy imagines he comes off looking great to:

LOL. Nobody cares what you have to say Sushy, yet still you come crying and whining to ATF every opportunity you get, forcing mods to clean up multiple whining threads you started (that's a great look to the people you're trying to impress, yeah?) and spamming every politics-related thread with more posts than everyone else (got a small amount of work today to keep the streak alive, you can do it, I believe in you!).

Fyi I'm not trying to impress anyone. Least of all Mat. I could care less what he thinks of me. He doesn't particularly impress me either to be fair.

Most of my responses itt have been to counter lies and mud-slinging from unhinged hysterical loons.

But you dont know what constitutes a lie. Wn asked for content on a new forum got any?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/lie

Right.

Do you have proof that those posters are aquatic birds in the Gavia genus? When you say unhinged do you mean they are typically mounted on hinges or are you more colloquially referring to a lack of hinges in general? Can you provide photographic evidence of the mud that was slung?

That quoted sentence could also be described as an oxymoron.

In anticipation of this thread being locked very soon.

Good luck WN and thanks for your efforts. Merry Christmas everybody. Look forward to seeing you all again in the new year in the new forum for more stimulating discourse.

Lol zik, way to trick sushy into being spammer #1 of this thread

Who made this thread?

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/m...sted&t=1698017

Happy holidays.

Ok - perhaps it isn't my grasp of the English language that is the problem here.

What he said was "scientists...and other people who deal with facts do lean left" so out of the options of leaning right or left he clearly comes to the conclusion that they lean left. He doesn't say after lean left "mostly" or "in the majority" he says they lean left which is a clear political position to the exclusion of any contemplation that there are any scientists that lean right.

Now, even better for him not to use the words "most" or "the majority of" at the start of the sentence or use the words "mostly" or "in the majority" at the end of it would be to say that "scientists...and other people who deal with facts tend to (or are likely to ) lean left".

keep posting more propaganda goofy, you live in such a bubble you think this **** is actually valid. It's sad really.

But perhaps it is?

What is invalid about it? Can you provide an example of a Donald Trump lie on the list that is invalid or a Barack Obama lie that is not on the list?

“A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.)

Here BitchiBee, I'll help you. The one above is a stretch for "demonstrably and substantially false statements". He is obviously wrong regarding the number and all-time record, but it is believable to me that he doesn't remember the exact number of times and that he thought it might be the record (he does qualify that part with "I think" anyway).

1 down, 96 to go if you want to tie Obama's first 10 months.

To a rightwinger, propaganda means "any news that doesn't agree with my worldview."

because regardless of the content it is utterly devoid of value

they don't reveal methodology, they don't define timeline, they don't define variables and don't reveal conflicts.
where are they taking the lies from? what doesn't count as something that you can find lie in? what if trump talks more in things you are sampling, does that matter? who is deciding on this, and what are the criteria for it?

they take the ethos of a scientific paper, with none of the trappings.
its just propaganda there's no other way around it, its an entirely subjective article they smear the veneer of objectivity on.

The very first word at the top of the page is

OPINION

Find me one scientific paper that starts the same way and I'll grant your point.