Why not give him control of a few threads in POG, which is where he usually posts anyway?

Why is well named ignoring the questions about the posts he deleted about BS and that other long winded moron versus those that remained about fly?

Judging by the replies itt I've either entirely misunderstood WN's intent or others have and much of this is a re-hashing of complaints re the Politics forum. I thought that WN wanted a Lounge-style Politics forum. You know, the one w/ a more adult level of discourse.

So I'd say you can call him a racist w/o having caused the profanity filter to fire.

If you have a few threads within P then they will be dominated by those who want you to fail. Some determined to crash it will post anyway but overall they are more likely to simply stay away if you have a separate forum.

Man you are dumb. One, that could just as well be true of a separate forum, unless he starts handing out some bans, and two, HE'LL HAVE THE POWER TO DELETE POSTS AND BAN PEOPLE IN THE POLITICS THREADS.

It could just as well be true.

then again, as I said, posters are more likely to not bother visiting a separate forum. You can add 'imo' of you like but it's pretty obvious.

Wookie are exiled posters allowed into the special threads?

Trump is guilty of everything he blames other people of.

Short answer is I've been working 14 hour days this week. But on skim it looked to me that posts that mentioned fly after I said we should move on were mostly defending him, and not attacking him. It didn't seem particularly important. However I could probably make an argument for nuking about 90% of the posts in the last day, but I was too busy and figured meh. I think the whole omg WN didn't mod those posts is sort of amusing though. I like fly, I even mentioned him earlier in this thread as a poster who was good at posting substantively while also being an *******. Sometimes he's over the line, of course, but that doesn't change my general opinion. Anyway things have gotten a bit away from me but you'll have to forgive me if I don't think anything too terrible has happened by way of "unfair" moderation. Probably this is how wookie feels. Also this is the first evening I haven't had a bunch of stuff to do this week so instead I'm drinking. Please bear that in mind.

I haven't posted in POG regularly for a couple years now, minus the politics thread.

Also: I'm sort of intrigued by the "do a few threads in the main forum" idea. I dunno, when in the earlier thread I said to Mat that this whole thing was more likely to cause him heartburn than me, I think I was mistaken. I'm pretty torn right now between still liking the general idea and thinking that it's way more of a pain in the ass than I really need.

needs rainbow or meme form

aww, I never knew you cared

But if I didn't think the idea had potential I wouldn't have participated the first time!

It's a good question. I could link to the race and crime thread I made in P7, or snippets of some other conversations that took place which are more or less drowned in noise surrounding them, but in general I'm not sure that it's absolutely the case that there are certain topics or discussions that absolutely can't take place in the main forum. I think it's more like the style of the forum and the dominance of people with one worldview tends to make them noisy. I don't want to exclude those people, I just want a little more argument in some cases.

Mostly I just think it's interesting to have a more diverse range of voices. I agree with OrP when he said that he thinks the lack of diversity in P is due more to posters than moderation, so from my perspective it's as much down to perceptions as reality in terms of why that might happen in the main forum. But there is a dilemma in the sense that I don't want to create diversity by artificially silencing people on the left. I mean, I am on the left! I tend to agree much more with regular forum posters on most issues. So I dunno, I think my position is at least moderately incoherent, but I think there is a germ of an interesting idea, and at least some validity to some of the complaints about the main forum, even if I don't agree with all of them entirely.

I thought you gave an excellent summary here:

People with no values often find it hard to imagine that people are good and always assume the worst of them. This is why conservatives are always assuming charities are corrupt because they can't conceive of a charity they wouldn't steal from.

lol kerowo. I dont assume the worst of people - I'm far more inclined to think better of people than you. So if you're right ....

Some think it would be good for WN to fail. I accept they might be right although I disagree.

Provided that you explain it that's ok.

The same 5-10 clowns saying this over and over in different ways still doesn't make it true.

I don't think others misunderstand the intent so much as fear the new forum will fail to live up to it and instead be a haven for reprehensible posting. And IMO if it does succeed it will require an enormous amount of effort to achieve Lounge-style posting, with equivalent traffic levels.

he's just following the lead of his boss, bannon, in using nazi strategy to create counter-narratives where it's the left that lies all the time

Once you've sobered up, would you mind actually addressing zikzak's question?

Given that this is allegedly the entire raison d'etre for you inflicting another chezzfront re-boot on us, it's rather surprising that you keep ducking the question.

Hostility towards WN is not a good look. Dude has been a top tier poster for a long time. Like I said I think this ends massive failure everytime but the very few times it doesn't it will be directly because of WN.

The idea of the forum isn't completely absurd but the level of a lot of (not all by any means) the "opposing viewpoints aka racism/nationalism" posters (specifically the ones that feel very passionately about the need for this forum, which means they will be high volume posters in said forum) is just so horrible the forum essentially has no chance regardless who mods it. These guys will eventually get themselves banned/exiled eventually and the forum is then just politics v1.

If there were any decent number of longtime nonhorrible posters who lean conservative and don't discuss politics on any of the 2p2 subs posting here expressing they would be interested I'd be much more optimistic/in favor of this. That doesn't seem to be the case unless a lot of people are PMing WN.

My main concern is that wn will post less. He doesn't post enough as it is.

I support the idea of separate threads in P for WN. Moderating a new forum would be a full time job, to which he doesn't have the resources. The other moderators in P could delete the most blatant posts while he's away.

If he does it correctly, it won't be a full-time job. "No content" -> delete, "being an *******" -> delete, "no argument detected" -> delete, "data disconfirms your idea," -> "well, actually" response post by wn. BtM2 says something witty -> wn lets that slide.

I only know one person who is (maybe) better at actuallying* people than wn.

*this word is trademarked

if he's working 14 hour shifts and trying to micromanage this forum, i fear for his spouse and offspring

My suggestions/guide was to simplify the task. Tbh, I fear for everyone who decides to mod a forum.