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08-06-2017 , 07:28 AM
Hello, moderators of 2plus2.

As my two threads about Nil Poker (theory discussions) has been closed, and some threads has not been closed, I am asking you (moderators of 2plus2) if it is fine to discuss programming related questions about new poker variant (Nil Poker) in this forum? Because now I know all that I wanted to know about theory of Nil Poker. Now, I moved to my next and the final "problem" (making online Nil Poker software). I am not planning to discuss theory questions about nil poker anymore. I have some questions about making online Nil Poker software. I do not know anything about programming, so all the help I will get for this matter it will be very valuable for me.

More specifically, I am asking you if it is fine to discuss my questions in those threads:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/45...-help-1681882/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...-help-1682201/

About past discussions(in my threads): I am really glad some people on this forum were helping me with possible Nil Poker variants, views on Nil Poker, possible perfect play of Nil Poker and much more. I believe I have been very constructive too (contributing something new to this forum)- I believe some of my posts in this forum have good value about poker in general, too. I also believe it is pretty cool for some people to discuss new poker variant - Nil Poker (discovering and learning something new). I think it is pretty cool to discuss innovations in general.

Anyway, I will respect what you moderators decide. You can just say that I am not allowed to ask questions about Nil Poker anymore and I will never ask anything related to this matter on this forum ever again.

I am asking you this in this subforum because I have asked this question one time before in some thread allready and moderator said it is fine to discuss Nil Poker.

Thank you for your answers.
08-06-2017 , 11:59 AM
To avoid people searching for further backstory, OP has had a ridiculous 100+ post thread in BQ locked, which consisted of everyone telling him his idea was ******ed, and OP replying lots with his fingers in his ears going "blah blah blah can't hear you this is the future of poker" in a real spammy fashion

Last edited by sixfour; 08-06-2017 at 12:11 PM.
08-06-2017 , 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackspoker
More specifically, I am asking you if it is fine to discuss my questions in those threads:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/45...-help-1681882/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...-help-1682201/
It's up to the mods of those forums whether or not it is fine to discuss your questions in those threads, so no need to ask here. Ask the mods of those forums, or wait and see whether they leave your threads open.
08-06-2017 , 02:48 PM
PSA: Don't start a thread in LLSNL or TWSS promoting your poker game.

Thank you.
08-06-2017 , 04:09 PM
I'm not sure I really understand your question - it seems like you're asking if you can do something that you've already gone ahead and done.

I think the best answer to your question has been given:

Quote:
Originally Posted by gregorio
It's up to the mods of those forums whether or not it is fine to discuss your questions in those threads, so no need to ask here. Ask the mods of those forums, or wait and see whether they leave your threads open.
This forum isn't meant to be the place to get clearance for you to start threads or ask questions elsewhere - each forum is moderated a little differently, and you should discuss with the forum mods. But I can't see what questions you'd want to ask the moderators of those forums anyway - it appears to me that you've already started the threads and are asking the questions.

I can give you some general guidance; some rules or guidelines you need to start following everywhere you post here, and tips based on some of your posts I've skimmed through:

1) Don't start the same thread in multiple forums. It looks like the ones you've started so far have been borderline, maybe OK - I can see how your most recent thread works for either Software or Programming, for example, so I don't have a big issue with that. But I wouldn't want you to think that means it's OK to do it with future threads.

2) The threads you have asking technical questions seem to be OK, but using our site to promote your game in the future would not be. TBH, you're over the line with some of your material now, like your "what do you think of it" threads. Those are heavily promotional, and you could easily have been banned for creating those. I imagine the reason you weren't is just because no one can see a way you're going to profit off the game. But you should know that doesn't exclude a thread from being considered spam - we don't generally allow people to freely promote whatever product or service they offer, whether it's for-profit or not, unless they fit very specific rules, have approval, etc. And it doesn't help that pretty much every post you've ever made on this forum is about your game. Basically, I think your existing active threads are fine if the mods of the forums are OK with them, but anything beyond those threads will likely run afoul of restrictions on promotional posts.

3) You need to learn a bit about good forum interaction. When a bunch of people give feedback and/or ask questions that are similar, each one doesn't need its own reply. This is a forum that everyone can read, not a series of private conversations, so you don't need to make 10 posts in a row that say "Poster X, thanks for your feedback, see my answers above", "Poster Y, see my answers above", etc.

4) Take it easy on all the formatting - when your post is filled with all-caps, bold, underline to emphasize things, it emphasizes nothing. That sort of thing should be used very sparingly if you want it to have an impact.

As an aside, as has been mentioned to you numerous times before, your claims of "most skill-based card game ever created" sound ridiculous (and "most skill-based poker variant ever created" isn't much better), especially given the scant evidence you provide to back up this claim. Grandiose claims like this often work against products, as they make them appear less credible. But that's all I have to say about it just as some general feedback for you; I've already read your arguments about why your game is so skill-based and don't need you to present them again in this thread.

I have some brief thoughts on your existing threads that probably don't belong here, so I'll post in one of them instead.
08-07-2017 , 06:57 AM
After he went bat**** crazy, Bobby Fischer was touting a chess variant that was supposedly the wave of the future. Turns out not so much.
08-07-2017 , 10:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gregorio
It's up to the mods of those forums whether or not it is fine to discuss your questions in those threads, so no need to ask here. Ask the mods of those forums, or wait and see whether they leave your threads open.
Hello gregorio. Thank you for answering my questions.

So, because mentioned threads were not closed I will assume it is fine to discuss them.
08-07-2017 , 10:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by venice10
PSA: Don't start a thread in LLSNL or TWSS promoting your poker game.

Thank you.
Hello, venice10. Thank you for reply.

Ok NP, I will never post anything related to new poker variant in those subforums: LLSNL or TWSS.
08-07-2017 , 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I'm not sure I really understand your question - it seems like you're asking if you can do something that you've already gone ahead and done.

I think the best answer to your question has been given:


This forum isn't meant to be the place to get clearance for you to start threads or ask questions elsewhere - each forum is moderated a little differently, and you should discuss with the forum mods. But I can't see what questions you'd want to ask the moderators of those forums anyway - it appears to me that you've already started the threads and are asking the questions.

I can give you some general guidance; some rules or guidelines you need to start following everywhere you post here, and tips based on some of your posts I've skimmed through:

1) Don't start the same thread in multiple forums. It looks like the ones you've started so far have been borderline, maybe OK - I can see how your most recent thread works for either Software or Programming, for example, so I don't have a big issue with that. But I wouldn't want you to think that means it's OK to do it with future threads.

2) The threads you have asking technical questions seem to be OK, but using our site to promote your game in the future would not be. TBH, you're over the line with some of your material now, like your "what do you think of it" threads. Those are heavily promotional, and you could easily have been banned for creating those. I imagine the reason you weren't is just because no one can see a way you're going to profit off the game. But you should know that doesn't exclude a thread from being considered spam - we don't generally allow people to freely promote whatever product or service they offer, whether it's for-profit or not, unless they fit very specific rules, have approval, etc. And it doesn't help that pretty much every post you've ever made on this forum is about your game. Basically, I think your existing active threads are fine if the mods of the forums are OK with them, but anything beyond those threads will likely run afoul of restrictions on promotional posts.

3) You need to learn a bit about good forum interaction. When a bunch of people give feedback and/or ask questions that are similar, each one doesn't need its own reply. This is a forum that everyone can read, not a series of private conversations, so you don't need to make 10 posts in a row that say "Poster X, thanks for your feedback, see my answers above", "Poster Y, see my answers above", etc.

4) Take it easy on all the formatting - when your post is filled with all-caps, bold, underline to emphasize things, it emphasizes nothing. That sort of thing should be used very sparingly if you want it to have an impact.

As an aside, as has been mentioned to you numerous times before, your claims of "most skill-based card game ever created" sound ridiculous (and "most skill-based poker variant ever created" isn't much better), especially given the scant evidence you provide to back up this claim. Grandiose claims like this often work against products, as they make them appear less credible. But that's all I have to say about it just as some general feedback for you; I've already read your arguments about why your game is so skill-based and don't need you to present them again in this thread.

I have some brief thoughts on your existing threads that probably don't belong here, so I'll post in one of them instead.
Hello, Bobo Fett. Thank you for taking your time and writing your reply.

Yes, I opened mentioned threads before I opened this thread, but because some of my threads involving new poker variant were closed, I was being nice and polite, so I asked here if it is fine to talk about new poker variant... Now I know...

Thank you for clearing a lot of things for me and thank you for general guidance.
08-11-2017 , 04:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kioshk
After he went bat**** crazy, Bobby Fischer was touting a chess variant that was supposedly the wave of the future. Turns out not so much.
While Chess960 isn't the future of chess, it's certainly a good idea and fairly popular (though obv never going to replace traditional chess). You can play it both on ICC and chess.com and it is included in FIDEs rules of chess.

Of all the proposed variations to chess up through (recent) history, it's probably the only one that actually has come close to becoming a popular variant of traditional chess, so comparing it to an idea which (and I base this only on comments in this thread) seems to be completely unworkable isn't really fair.
08-12-2017 , 12:06 PM
These are only my thoughts (in this post), which may be wrong…..

Please note that this is only my opinion (I have read really a lot of threads in this forum).... This post is just my view on things (some may disagree with me)...

I think it is fine to write constructive criticism… I think constructive criticism is allways welcome…as this is subforum for suggestions (feedback), I hope it is fine to post this here….

What I do not like about this forum:

1.) I do not understand why are some people on this forum making fun of people that for example did not get paid by some poker website… How is this fun? It is the opposite of fun…

2a.) Not a lot of respect between people here in some topics (for me it is not cool if people are trolling some person that have different opinions than other; especially if this person is right, because in my eyes there is not that much credibility if this happens, especially if mods allow this kind od behaviour)…. Respect is two way street…. I mean person can not expect to get respected if he does not respect…

2b.) Too many trolling posters here…For example: poster 1 writes some question or some opinion (opens a thread)… Poster 2 writes that poster 1 is wrong and troll (but poster 2 is the one who is wrong in reallity) … Poster 3 came and write the same as poster 2 (posters 2 and 3 have a lot of posts to their name: so are well known users of this forum; also poster 2 and poster 3 probably know each other)… Poster 4 and poster 5 (do not know a lot about poker: but just trying to blend in) write aprox. same thing as poster 2 and poster 3……. And so on…. Poster 1´s question goes in completly wrong direction (he still does not know what is the answer to his post; or the most importantly, he might learn it wrong, which is like the worst thing that can happened to anybody, especially in poker)….

3.) It seems to me that a lot of people here think that more rake is a good thing…. Which is clearly wrong…

4.) I got a lot of wrong advices and interpretations for some of my questions and opinions…

5.)I do not like that it is wrong to discuss new poker things here…I think that some of my posts have great value to this poker community in general (new views on poker innovations and so on: this things has never been discused before anywhere,…:so I assumed it would be amazing for everyone to discuss them here)…


The reason why I wrote this is because I believe you want to hear some feedback (only my opinion;I think that feedback from everyone is important)….I am just trying to help this site… this was just my constructive criticism…I think that you should look this post like this: I could leave this site without letting you know why I leave (so you would not know why I leave) or I can be nice and write you why I will leave this site (feedback). This is my last post on this forum… So, you can ban me(or delete this post) for saying the things I did in this post, but I am just trying to be helpful… but because this is my last post, banning me would not be necesarry in my case… So, in my case, as I am just some random visitor, I will found another poker community (really do not care)… Sorry to say this,… but what can I do…I can not be part of this forum anymore for reasons mentioned above. Sure, some people might reply to this post, how terribly wrong I am thinking (maybe: this is only my opinion), but in the most cases, that will just prove what I wrote in this post… Anyway, I really wish this site all the best…

GL people….. And one more time…. Big thanks to the few people that were very helpful for me.. I really can not thank you enough…

Last edited by blackspoker; 08-12-2017 at 12:34 PM.
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