(I know its too much to ask but its always fun to highlight ignorance)

I was recently temp banned, although I don't not wish to make a fuss about that specifically (wasn't given a warning or explanation ) I would like to cut to the chase anyways and bring a specific issue before you. I expect I shouldn't have to worry about words and definitions because the concept is simple.

I want to first point out and show (by satisfactory proof), that the thread I was commenting in has a system setup that is -ev for the players. It is our mttsng PokerStars suggestion thread. The system is setup so that any player can shout out a random idea about changing the structure or economy of the game, and simply put poker stars can cherry pick the ideas that best suit their interests (ignoring intelligent +ev players wants), and come back and tell the players that they asked for the -ev change.

This has already happened many times in this thread that stars made changes to the game that intelligent players do not agree with, which is fine, but then they are able to quote the post in which the players (1 unknowledgable poster making a -ev suggestion) asked for the change. So the bargaining power lies solely in the hands of stars because of this and the players have already lost a lot of money from it, and we wish to plug this leak.

After showing this system as being an obvious leak, if one still argues to keep it, we have to assume they either don't have the capacity to understand the problem, or they have a vested interest in keeping the system favorable for PS. I don't mean to accuse this site of this, I really just think its an old system, but to censor my ability to point this out would seem somewhat alarming to me.

What we are simply asking for is a separate thread where players can discuss the changes in the game they want, that is NOT the same thread we present our ideas to stars. I realize stars can choose to make what changes they want, but at least they won't be able to quote the players as saying it was their idea in the first place. This is clearly not optimal for the players, its clearly not fair, it clearly costs the players, and it has a clear solution that doesn't violate anyone's terms or motivations.

But then why have I been told it is to never happen?

Furst.

well here's your answer

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Or they disagree with you.

Who is "we"?

By whom?

Can't you just talk about Stars ideas outside the Stars improvement thread in your own NC/LC/Regs thread?

If you think Stars won't do anything, it seems kind of pointless, but I'd imagine there is some thread for your motives in a forum as popular as a MTT forum.

it would be embarrassing to have to argue that the current system is not optimal

players that enjoy +ev lines


I suspect the same phantom that recently temp banned me.

No i can't because i was banned for suggesting the idea and told it is to never happen, but i agree with you.

I was looking for a more specific answer. You say "we" in a way that implies that a number of people (greater than one) are wanting this separate thread. Who are these people?

So you were told this in the ban reason?

its people who like profitable decisions
I know right? I wasn't told a reason. me and you could brainstorm some, but for this instance so far its looking to be either fear of change or power of control.

I forgot why i quoted this but im drunk.

Well, since you don't seem to want to answer any questions, I don't see the point in continuing to indulge your desire to...I don't know what.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55...spond-1438258/

I clearly answered this person's questions in my thread before yet they locked the discussion.

I have CLEARLY shown this forum is forcing the players to bow to the will of the advertising revenue. I have clearly shown it forces the players to lose money. I have clearly shown the solution.

How about I get to discuss this with reasonable mods, rather than those that will lock and ban with ZERO discussion about the actual subject.

To lock this discussion, or to ban me for bringing it up, is clearly acting in the interest of Pokerstars.

Why should we continue to avoid addressing this issue?

Or do I have to leave this site now that I have pointed out this corruption?

Bye.

Your use of the word "we" is confusing to me. (or should I say us?) (I did tell a kid, who was meeting his psychiatrist for the very first time, to say "I'd like to introduce my selves!" Perhaps that is what you are implying.)

we think this poster is unstable. we also think this thread will be locked like the last one. we don't want to be asked who we are.

we are we.

Is that what it is? When you speak out against the advertising revenue you get censored and banned?

I suspect the large majority of this site is losing players. Losing players cannot properly recognize +ev lines. Can this be our excuse?

We know the mods and owners are now aware of this, and we know they understand it...

certainly we can at least address the issue?

"this person's"... you have to be a bit careful with what you say... lol

No you didn't.

Try answering the question PROPERLY. Don't give some general group like "people who like +ev situations". How about listing some names so that your claim can be corroborated. Support your claim with some evidence.

Issue #1. Bobo Fett is probably the most level-headed mod on here.
Issue #2. You keep saying "we" and when asked who "we" is, you simply try to align others to your cause by using generalizations. When asked exactly who "we" is, you need to put NAMES in there.
Issue #3. You're calling out corruption because someone requests a change, PS introduces it, but it's a change you don't like. That seems quite filled with bull****.

In short, your post is -EV and this post is just more of the same. You either need to articulate your point with actual FACTS or accept that you're not very bright.

Were you banned for cringeworthy abuse of poker terms like ev and leak?

If not, you should have been.

Yeah OP, what's the deal?

Yes I did answer them, you can see where this was done in this posthttp://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=43050307&postcount=10 You want to tell me they didn't like the nature of my answer, but its not true to say I didn't answer the questions because we can all clearly see that I responded to them. I appreciate you addressing this and not just banning me and locking this with no explanation.
That doesn't corroborated any claim that I have made. I didn't say there are people to name that support this nor did I mean to imply that. I am making a valid generalization based on the FACT that good players like to take +ev lines and that bad players don't know the difference.

Or the mods and owners hear mean to tell me that faced with 1 person pointing out obvious corrupt practices that the players that don't have the capacity to understand must also stand behind me? Its pretty messed up that I'm not allowed to publicly talk to them about it in order to educate them.
My claim is the current practice is -ev for the players and gives all the negotiating power to the company that likely pays the bulk of the advertising revenue. I can give evidence on this, especially if given a real opportunity.

But regardless of 'evidence', you should clearly be able to see what is going on, and if you can't you shouldn't be a mod.

To the others, I only want to discuss this with mod's, not interested in randoms the don't have the capacity to recognize +ev lines.

Is it because I haven't posted a stellar graph? I don't get respect because I haven't shown the players I can run good over a small sample?

Is it why we ban people here? (I don't know why I was banned, because I got no warning and no explanation, no idea who did it, other than one mod in that section deletes almost any strat thread I attempt to create).

Confirmed troll.

i have well over 70k+ games as a winning player. Why do people like this get to come into a thread on a serious issue and try to get people labeled as a troll?

I'm not a troll, and people should not be allowed to gang up on others to get them painted that way.

This site is ripping off the players, its clear and simple, I know what ev is.

The question is will we talk about it, or suppress the discussion?

The irony is delicious.

If you are a mod and you are not on the side of the players on this issue I must assume you cannot understand a simple concept.

Mttsng suggestions thread is really a game of negotiation between the players and stars.

As it stands now, the rules are setup to intensely favor Stars. All I am asking for is a separate thread where players can safely discuss their ideas with out condemning themselves to the implementation of the ones that have a negative expected value.

Its disgusting to watch!

And personally I don't appreciate it because I like money.