no, you got it right the first time with that insulting thing.

Meh, clever posters will find a way to sneak sigs into posts no matter what the rules are.

So most sigs are ok, just not the one you don't like. If every subjective suggestion brought to ATF was enforced we'd probably have no forum.

There's an objective difference between sigs that are just a name (Mason, NMHU) and tompakee's, which has 2 lines of text.

2 whole lines, ffs!!

I'm basically arguing that we don't need a rule when there's already a solution in place - ignore the poster.

Making a rule just gives the mods something more to do and more reason for randoms to hate on us for enforcing a stupid rule.

I kind of agree that people with "annoying" signatures are a bit selfish in keeping it once they realize how many people are annoyed, but guess what? There are tons of posters that are annoying. There are people who think I'm annoying (in b4 a ton of people agree). As long as they aren't deliberately trolling, being annoying in some way isn't against the rules. It's just what happens when a vast horde of people with different writing styles and personalities all interact.

This **** can only annoy you if you let it. Either ignore the poster or grow thicker skin.

Signatures are silly.





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Again, I do ignore them! I just want 2+2 to be a better place!

F those moron randoms who complain and come on, it wouldn't be that much more work at all. Sounds like you are tired of doing mod work and getting bitched at to me (understandable). Maybe you are judging this not on the validity of the complaint but on the way it would affect you directly.

This could be easily and swiftly implemented and would probably only be a few more infractions per month per mod if that.

Given that my stance on this is pretty much identical to my stance about banning "seizure avatars", I'm pretty sure I'm not overly biased by how much bitching I receive. You can't please everyone.

And you honestly have no idea how "easily or swiftly implemented" this would be for mods, or how many more infractions it would mean. It seems to me that you're making a lot of assumptions about how the site/modding works and using that to justify your "sigs are annoying and getting rid of them is so EZ, so let's do that!" argument.

I think in general that 2p2 prefers not to have a rule about something unless there's no other efficient way to deal with the issue. There's already an efficient way to deal with this issue, ergo no rule is necessary. IMO, of course.

If we developed a rule to deal with everything posters found annoying there wouldn't be a site. Of course no one reads the rules anyway.

New idea: make me (or someone) the mod of signatures and I will hand out swift and fair justice across all of 2p2! We can even give it to my old '04 registration account if necessary. I'd be happy to do it and have been on 2p2 daily for years without ever being banned or even getting an infraction.

Either that or managing this on a case by case basis and giving warnings to the most egregious offenders would be awesome. Like any time a thread is derailed by people complaining about a sig, take action or something.

If not, I'll just continue to ignore the asshats. No big deal.

Think I've said about all I can say here, so thank you all for your consideration and have a nice long weekend!

-WalterS

"You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain. A world of pain. [shouting] Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a **** about the rules? Mark it zero! Mark it zero! You think I'm ****ing around here? Mark it zero!

It's a league game, Smokey"

This already happens. It's not like no one has ever been warned or infracted for a sig; it just doesn't happen often, and the threshold for when this happens is much higher than you'd like.

Bobo - you are Tompakee??

Lee

Lee, your thoughts on people who sign their posts?

The message that shows when an ignored poster posts is more annoying than the sigs.

Agree with OP.

WalterS for mod.

If we wants to govern using this philosophy, I got absolutely no problem having him as a mod imo.


- NMHU.

Gtfo










-NMHU.-waffle

I think the best solution is for all posters to openly mock those who sign their posts until they get the hint and eliminate the sig -- or better yet, stop posting altogether.

Regards,
Mason

Mocking people doesn't cause them to stop posting. I've tried.

I am accepting mocking so I guess it dosent work.

completely unrelated.




- NMHU.

Sigs crack me up, especially A Nobel Gent's, I miss him :-(

- Niggardly yours

- ABD

Seems like a non-issue to me





-GoDeViLs

I think everyone should start using sigs until the mods realizr how bad it makes the forum look.

Sigs are obviously not welcome otherwise there would be a tool for it.

Begrudgingly
BF415

Gregorio,

Long ago, probably before most posters on this forum were even born, there were no personal computers. Let alone an Internet, www, forums, etc.

Back then, people were taught that signing one's name to the bottom of a missive was considered mandatory courtesy. And has become an ingrained habit that just feels totally wrong to break, even though intellectually we know that the rules (on the internet at least) have changed and signatures are no longer considered necessary, and by some at least not even desirable.

Thus, some of us sign posts. Even though most don't.

Having said that, I do see a clear distinction between a simple signature (typed, but still a signature IMHO) with perhaps a "regards", "sincerly yours", or something of that ilk, and those who sign with long verbalizings and/or images. The latter get to be bulky, unnecessarily repetitious, and simply make a forum harder to read.

That's my viewpoint, and thank you for asking!

Lee

First serious post I've seen here for a long time.


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Untrue. Back in the '60s, someone thumb-tacked an angry rant against signatures to the 2+2 bulletin board, because someone was signing his posts with fecal matter. The mods chased the offender down and raped him.

3.50 interwebz to you, sir.