ūI am asking this since 2 days ago a HU SNG mod just deleted 2 of my posts and replies to it in our HU SNG Reg Thread, even though I didn't break any forum rules and the mod's reason was only because he found it was negative and that it could lead to a heated discussion.

This reasons alone I find quite weak tbh and there are so many heated debates on this forum that I can't believe that this potential (it didn't even happen and I would say it wouldn't even have been that likely to happen) one is kinda special and deserves special treatment. And it was really not a super controversial subject.
And to the negativity of my post. It was a honest question coupled with criticism. Now if that's enough to get his posts deleted there should be a ton of posts insta deleted in all of the 2+2 forums.

My question in said thread was along the lines of: "Is it me or are most of xxxxxxxxx (a HU sng stable) members quite weak and easy to play against? The last one e.g. was limp/folding 8bbs and below all the time (in HU hypers such shallow effective stack depths are common starting at 25bbs)."
And in my follow up post I was emphasising that it's really meant as an honest question and why so and not just to stir things up.
I've asked this question cause I am time and time again baffled how easy is it is to play vs said players (and my sample of players of said stable and hands vs these players is not small) and how a lot of them don't seem to plug their leaks since months. Considering that they are part of a staking stable and likely (should) get coaching and stuff this is really baffling imo.

Unfortunately said mod, who I generally really like and think he is vital to the HU sng community, wasn't really willing to discuss his action via pm basically told me I was just looking to xxxx with him and that the question wasn't needed and the potential answer of the stable owners (which I really wasn't interested in since their most likely answer should be obvious to everybody anyway) neither (is a mod really there to judge what is needed and what not??).

Oh and to be clear, I am not shocked that this specific posts of mine got deleted but how arbitrarily he seems to delete posts.

Edit: I do even think there would value to be gained by such a discussion about said stable, at least for players who are looking for a stake. If my post would have been moved to the staking forum I could have lived with but to delete them was really not warrented imo.

Hey, I'm the mod that deleted your post.

I didn't think it was appropriate to basically bash a staking stable so generally.

FWIW, I run a different stable myself and have no involvement in the stable you were criticizing, but I just felt your comment was unnecessarily negative and would only lead towards negativity.

We did have a long PM exchange, I did not ignore you.

Can you give example of how I've arbitrarily deleted other posts please? I rarely have deleted things in the heads up sng forum. Flaming/trolling/spam and things that people complain collectively about are really the only stuff I've ever deleted and that isn't too frequent.

I think it would've been less appropriate in the staking forum, but I don't mod that forum. Calling players in a stable bad isn't really appropriate I believe. If you had worked in that stable (as a player or coach) and found it to be lacking, you could post a negative review, but saying "your players are bad" isn't really going to accomplish anything positive at all, is it?

I'm open to being wrong here, it just felt like you were looking for reactions/trolling, so I deleted your post, then you kind of let me have it via PM a bit.

Scummiest forum on 2+2 since Lock Poker's was closed IMO.

Ah, I'm convinced. Should we close it down tonight, or will tomorrow morning be soon enough?

Guys, I swear, we have a new investor for the 2p2 heads up sng forum, and checks are on the way. Just be patient, the pipes got clogged on the wires, payment processors, garggle garggle.

I was not saying I think every of their players is bad and it was formulated as a question. So it was far from stating it as the only truth and since I am not mrgr33n13 or skaiwalkurrr my opinion won't hold that much weight anyway.
And even if it was not appropriate is that really a good reason to censorship it?
I doubt it and as said before, you would have to delete so many more posts then.

Well it was criticism I'll give you that but to just label it cheaply as only negativity is not really appropriate imho.


Really? Your first answer was I should rather be quiet about it and just beat em up. And why I would be interested to clue everybody in to start with. And you've told me that you would fear the answer of the owners of the stable and that would lead to more work for you since you would have to delete these answers too (really don't get that though since it would obv not spamming ads for their stable {another fear oof yours}).

I've replied to it and all of a sudden your next reply was very defensive, belittling me and top of it claiming 3 wrong things I've said according to you.

To my next long reply you've answered with a 1-liner repeating that it was unnecessarily negative.

If you call that a lengthy discussion about the actual subject and not about some of the side tracks call me surprised....

Why would you ask me this? I am obv only referring to my 2 posts (and the answers to it) you've deleted.

Well...

Maybe it's not the way you meant it, but I also assumed from that sentence that you were talking about his moderating of other posts in general.

hi bob ,can you reply to you pm please when you get time

ty (i have been trying for a while now)

If it isn't the government doing it, is it censorship?

OP - I'm confused. Seriously. I don't play heads up and have never (near as I can recall, anyway) looked at the HU Forum, but if you've found a group of players who - in your opinion, at least - play really badly, then why start a discussion about it?

Me? I'ld be happy to find such a great opportunity, I'ld be happy taking their chips, and I certainly wouldn't blab to the world so that one and all could join in and dilute my winnings.......

But, that's just me.

Lee

Yes its still censorship.

If it isn't the government doing it, it isn't a 1st Amendment violation, but that does not mean that private organizations or individuals cannot censor.

Even if these horses would improve and it wouldn't be be as profitable to play against them as it is right now I couldn't care less tbh cause there are still more than enough recs and other fish regs at the limit I play mainly ($30 HU sng hypers) and I am not dependent on the poker income, it's just a nice side income.

I just don't get why they are so bad while playing for a stable and prolly get coaching from them or from hired coaches. I am just baffled and wanted imput from the community. Pretty simple.

But this thread is really not about me not being strategically savvy....

Wait, you aren't trying to censor what I can discuss in an ATF thread are you?

Yeah maybe you try again....and you should prolly look up the definition of censorship first....

Well the answer from the community, many of whom do depend on their poker income, might well be 'Don't tap the ****ing glass, idiot'.

Thanks for your polite input. :|


Edit: Funny how nobody seems to care about the censorship here on 2+2 but only show result oriented thinking which everybody preaches to refrain from....

Actally, imma luk up prolly and start their This furrin speakin is hard for me tx for the hep tho......

Edit - I'm not trying to be mean, I used the word "censor" as a verb, so my point stands. This post is simply practice for a piece of writing that I have planned for the future. (Although, this is obviously too over the top to be believable. I will keep practicing.)

Way to embarrass yourself....prolly is the short form of probably....

And I appreciate your kind concern for my ever expanding English skills. I am forever in your debt.

You should rather look to not embarrass yourself further imo.

But thanks for pointing out that censor is a verb (duh?). Censorship is the noun of it (duh?). And I could have used the word censor instead and my message would have been identically. If you actually would know the definition of it you wouldn't ask this stupid question since one can't censor somebody by reminding them to stay on topic (duh?)

Won't reply to you anymore. Waste of time imo.

This has been an excellent and very productive discussion! I think we are actually getting to the crux of your original problem. It appears that if you simply alter (Do I dare insert "slightly" here as a element of unwarranted kindness?) your posting style, to evidence perhaps a bit more of that "caring" thing, you would would be treated with that same professionalism that you so long for.

censor can be a noun or a verb

Censorship in ATF clearly doesn't go far enough if this crap is allowed.

The past tense of the verb can be an adjective.

I'm just glad censor use is steadily decreasing