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11-30-2020 , 06:59 PM
I've been told the ad has been removed on mobile devices.
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11-30-2020 , 07:21 PM
That is good news for a lot of people. Unfortunately for me, 95% of the time I am on here is on a PC.
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11-30-2020 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
I've been told the ad has been removed on mobile devices.
Still there for me right now on my iPad.
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11-30-2020 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Still there for me right now on my iPad.
Try opening a new tab in incognito window so it treats it as a fresh new session (avoiding cookie/cache conflicts, etc)
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12-03-2020 , 12:43 PM
Still here on PC (chrome) and very annoying. Anything being done?
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12-03-2020 , 02:15 PM
ffs accidental click are keeping us alive!
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12-03-2020 , 02:57 PM
I will never buy any of the products or services shown in this ad for the rest of my life!
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12-03-2020 , 06:15 PM
Killing my mobile experience... but I reqjest desktop...
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12-03-2020 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
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Originally Posted by javi
Try opening a new tab in incognito window so it treats it as a fresh new session (avoiding cookie/cache conflicts, etc)
Honestly I don't have time for this ****. Is it really that hard for website operators to just not make their site terrible in terms of user experience? It just seems like it's gotten worse every year for a while now

It is not that hard to design a website so that ads don't just **** everything up. Facebook pissed me off less than this site does, and I barely go on it anymore. It's going to be the same w 22, in addition to the fact that I will pretty much never recommend this site to anyone ever again, nor the books they sell. I have like 6 books I've received as gifts that could've come from their store. Not anymore...

The ads are obnoxious. The site itself still looks like it's from the 1990s. Every other month the site itself isn't properly secure for god knows what reason. I still have to read idiotic posts from ignored posters bc for whatever reason the ignore function doesn't eliminate quoted posts

I still frequent this place and still enjoy its use, but it just feels like the site wants less traffic not more. Maybe the tradeoff is the leeching these ads do to the remaining visitors and brass thinks it's worth it. I dunno. Whatever. This sucks and I'm 100% certain it doesn't have to be this way
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12-03-2020 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
Honestly I don't have time for this ****.

Not anymore.

This sucks

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12-04-2020 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RoundGuy
I lol'd

But I honestly can't tell if this is in jest or if this site is willing to talk to a customer that way after detailing several problems the site has, can correct, and I would hope become better for everyone's sake
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12-04-2020 , 12:25 AM
Yes the ads are annoying. But if you have an alternative idea for the site to make money, I'm sure they're all ears.
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12-04-2020 , 12:55 AM
I could sell nudes.
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12-04-2020 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
or if this site is willing to talk to a customer that way
If you're talking about RoundGuy, he doesn't work for the site.
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12-04-2020 , 08:49 AM
I just don't understand why this wasn't a thing for 15+ years and then suddenly oh we need some ad revenue? Like was the sidebar ad and totp ad not enough?
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12-04-2020 , 09:49 AM
I guess giant Bottom Ads weren't invented yet.
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12-04-2020 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by StuckinARutt
I just don't understand why this wasn't a thing for 15+ years and then suddenly oh we need some ad revenue? Like was the sidebar ad and totp ad not enough?
Poker isn't as popular as it once was, so ad revenue is naturally going to suffer. If you have other ideas to generate revenue I'm sure they'd be open to it.

From what I can tell, the bottom ad no longer displays on phones, so usability issues shouldn't be a factor anymore. I don't see the problem with the site trying to get a bit more revenue from the ad space at the bottom for desktop users, especially now that you can X out of that ad. Really not a big deal if you ask me.
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12-04-2020 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
Yes the ads are annoying. But if you have an alternative idea for the site to make money, I'm sure they're all ears.
Well for one thing, secure the site at all times and not let whatever security lapse...ever. If I'm on here and I don't see the lock in the top left corner, then I don't want to be here. Not safe for ANY visitor. You bottleneck your own view counts with a lapse...

Change the layout so it doesn't look like it's run by Geocities

UnstuckPolitics is wayyy better in functionality. Copy the things you like from that format. Freshen up the look of this place...The colors are drab as ****

Dark mode option would be nice too. Easier on the eyes and you have a lot of old people on here

Facebook has a bajillion ads and never once has one just taken up half the screen preventing me from clicking certain buttons to post and read

I'm guessing they hardly sell books and the ad revenue is needed. Well, this is a forum, and it's effectively social media. So observe Twitter, IG, FB, TikTok and become more like them. Figure out a way to monetize the way they do

Is it really that hard to code in like buttons and emojis? lol @ smilies...Stuck in the 2000s

I just think it can do better. Way better than this. Still selling books? Advertise them on the site. Sales. Referral bonuses. Get better books. I don't frequent most of the site, but BFI and P&S have an almost obsessive following. Why not sell politics and investing books? History books, documentaries for the geeks in History forum? Have a podcast? A social media presence?

I play dfs regularly and 22 has been mentioned many times in dfs circles. Daily fantasy is a thing. Should probably have a whole forum for dfs alone

Sports betting is expanding state by state. The subforums can probably be cleaned up a little or changed so it's cleaner. I remember like 15 years ago I suggested through a new thread to change "Internet Gambling" to "Internet Poker" as that made sense for a variety of reasons. Keep up w the times. Sports betting is expanding in the US, as is dfs which has been around a while now, so perhaps it's time to take a look at those forums and make new ones or combine old ones that don't make sense. I dunno, I'm just spitting out ideas

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
If you're talking about RoundGuy, he doesn't work for the site.
I see color I see authority within 22. I know mods volunteer (bless them for their agony) but to me they rep the site. This section is more like customer service to me than, say, BFI. Only reason I said it like that. It's no big deal to me, but while I'm making suggestions and giving criticism just doesn't seem like that's the best way to respond to it. I would expect that out of some rando from OOT or something, not ATF

I've run a business before and one thing I've learned is that sometimes you need to hear what you suck at to know you suck at it. Some people never complain, so it's entirely possible that quality of X, Y, or Z deteriorate and you just lose the business quietly without knowing why. I could have just not said anything or started this thread and I suppose then you'd just assume the ad isn't hurting you in any way. I would assume more info is better than less, no?

I always asked my customers how things were. And any time something was wrong I'd demand they tell me. Not sayin it should be like that here lol but in my situation it was important. 1) It would make the customer feel like I truly care about them and the product I sell them is quality. 2) It allowed me to plug leaks where I never otherwise would have known without the critique. 3) All experiences get passed on to others. It is how you earn your reputation and sometimes that matters. I suppose a global world means word of mouth isn't so powerful, but word of mouth on social media is. So I would think the same principles apply. Meh...
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12-04-2020 , 08:11 PM
Bring back the page peel ad!

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12-04-2020 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg

I see color I see authority within 22. .. I would expect that out of some rando from OOT or something, not ATF
You caught me. You caught the colored rando from OOT.
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12-04-2020 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
Well for one thing, secure the site at all times and not let whatever security lapse...ever. If I'm on here and I don't see the lock in the top left corner, then I don't want to be here. Not safe for ANY visitor. You bottleneck your own view counts with a lapse...

Change the layout so it doesn't look like it's run by Geocities

UnstuckPolitics is wayyy better in functionality. Copy the things you like from that format. Freshen up the look of this place...The colors are drab as ****

Dark mode option would be nice too. Easier on the eyes and you have a lot of old people on here

Facebook has a bajillion ads and never once has one just taken up half the screen preventing me from clicking certain buttons to post and read

I'm guessing they hardly sell books and the ad revenue is needed. Well, this is a forum, and it's effectively social media. So observe Twitter, IG, FB, TikTok and become more like them. Figure out a way to monetize the way they do

Is it really that hard to code in like buttons and emojis? lol @ smilies...Stuck in the 2000s

I just think it can do better. Way better than this. Still selling books? Advertise them on the site. Sales. Referral bonuses. Get better books. I don't frequent most of the site, but BFI and P&S have an almost obsessive following. Why not sell politics and investing books? History books, documentaries for the geeks in History forum? Have a podcast? A social media presence?

I play dfs regularly and 22 has been mentioned many times in dfs circles. Daily fantasy is a thing. Should probably have a whole forum for dfs alone

Sports betting is expanding state by state. The subforums can probably be cleaned up a little or changed so it's cleaner. I remember like 15 years ago I suggested through a new thread to change "Internet Gambling" to "Internet Poker" as that made sense for a variety of reasons. Keep up w the times. Sports betting is expanding in the US, as is dfs which has been around a while now, so perhaps it's time to take a look at those forums and make new ones or combine old ones that don't make sense. I dunno, I'm just spitting out ideas



I see color I see authority within 22. I know mods volunteer (bless them for their agony) but to me they rep the site. This section is more like customer service to me than, say, BFI. Only reason I said it like that. It's no big deal to me, but while I'm making suggestions and giving criticism just doesn't seem like that's the best way to respond to it. I would expect that out of some rando from OOT or something, not ATF

I've run a business before and one thing I've learned is that sometimes you need to hear what you suck at to know you suck at it. Some people never complain, so it's entirely possible that quality of X, Y, or Z deteriorate and you just lose the business quietly without knowing why. I could have just not said anything or started this thread and I suppose then you'd just assume the ad isn't hurting you in any way. I would assume more info is better than less, no?

I always asked my customers how things were. And any time something was wrong I'd demand they tell me. Not sayin it should be like that here lol but in my situation it was important. 1) It would make the customer feel like I truly care about them and the product I sell them is quality. 2) It allowed me to plug leaks where I never otherwise would have known without the critique. 3) All experiences get passed on to others. It is how you earn your reputation and sometimes that matters. I suppose a global world means word of mouth isn't so powerful, but word of mouth on social media is. So I would think the same principles apply. Meh...

Thank you for the feedback. It is appreciated.
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12-04-2020 , 11:34 PM
TeflonDawg (or anyone else) if you encounter a page that is not secure please let us know.
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12-05-2020 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SayGN
Poker isn't as popular as it once was, so ad revenue is naturally going to suffer. If you have other ideas to generate revenue I'm sure they'd be open to it.

From what I can tell, the bottom ad no longer displays on phones, so usability issues shouldn't be a factor anymore. I don't see the problem with the site trying to get a bit more revenue from the ad space at the bottom for desktop users, especially now that you can X out of that ad. Really not a big deal if you ask me.
Respectfully disagree (about the not a big deal comment). I frequent POG which sometimes involves frequent refresh of pages while playing our games. It can get quite annoying. Fortunately I'm not as avid a POG regular as I once was so I'm not going to war over this. But still quite annoying.
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12-06-2020 , 09:40 PM
Why hasn't this been resolved yet? This is very annoying and distracting just get rid of it already quit slacking off for Gods sake. The add is getting in the way when I try to read threads and is making my experience on 2+2 worse.
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12-06-2020 , 11:22 PM
It sounds like it has been resolved, just not the way you want.
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