Sure you can. Democrats, Republicans, communists, nazis, hell, even fascist dictators can agree with the morality, but the key is actually following it, not just agreeing with it but doing or supporting just the opposite.

Like I said, it's not ok for kindergardeners to do immoral ****, why is it ok for the government to? That's not putting morality into practice, it's the opposite.

I agree with the above.

How can you not support this as a poker player

They absolutely got carried away and used bad judgment there.

Too bad they didn't ask for opinions on the best way to incorporate this without such a negative response because better execution really could have yielded terrific results there....and had Gary perhaps even wanting to stay. Leading to other politicians too perhaps? Now, that whole possibility is blown pretty much.

But I generally roll my eyes and forgive them too. I'm still here, right?

The fallacy that seems to trip up many Libertarians is the idea that if you don't agree with their politics, that you believe the opposite of it, or that you're flawed in some other way. This does not help the cause. I'm not saying you're doing that, just that this is common. It's a rather large hurdle for the uninitiated.

I can agree with your morality AND agree that government should support it AND agree that a government should be smaller... and STILL not be Libertarian.

...and I say this as a one-time elected Libertarian official.

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Sounds like the same lip service the status quo gives freedom and personal liberty.

Ur doing damn good work ITT LirvA imo

I emailed them again three days ago. No response. I'll post ITT if I hear anything at all.

If you have a phone number you should try calling them instead imo.

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That's my problem with capital-L Libertarian zealots. Everything is framed like the above. You're either with us, or you hate freedom!

Every political group does that, though.

Support smaller military? You hate the troops and hate America.

Support marriage equality? You've declared war on marriage, you hate traditional families, and you hate America.

Support income equality? You hate capitalism and hate America.

Support prison reform? You're soft on crime, a bleeding heart sissy, and you hate America.

Support smaller government? You hate democracy and hate America.

I mean the list goes on and on, and at this point all sides are guilty of it. At least in public political circles, no one seems capable of actual intelligent discourse or the ability to discuss, understand, and compromise.

Which is why I think politicians are all frauds and am about two steps away from completely disengaging in the political process. I don't feel it matters one damn bit who gets elected any more. They all suck.

I think if voting changed anything they would make it illegal

Conspiratory theories itt.

Amen to that.

Even Gary?

Welcome, RJ.

The USA won't last. No way it can. I give it a century, maybe two. Depends on when the oil runs out. And then comes the war over potable water.

He won't even go on TheEngineer's podcast!


Engineer - Time for your own shameless plug here...I have no idea where to go for your podcast. I searched your 2+2 profile, the PPA website, and your personal twitter but I didn't immediately see it.

On the PPA facebook page is a thing on Monday for "Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny will be on the air shortly" but I couldn't figure out if that was the specific podcast you were referring to. And when I clicked it, I got Aerosmith instead. Which I suppose is nice since everyone likes Aerosmith. But it doesn't exactly convince me to advocate poker players' rights.

I agree with you but wat?

Thanks for wishing to check it out. You can listen live at 8 pm ET each Monday at http://www.ontiltradio.com/ppa. Kevmath will be my guest on Monday, 6/18!

If you miss the live show or wish to check out past shows, they are at http://podcasts.ontiltradio.com/index.php/podcast and on iTunes as a free download at http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/o...er/id502875902.

Soylent Green is made of people!

Florida says hi!

Engineer, how many listeners does your show have? I think less than 1k gives you your answer why Gary wouldn't waste time with it now.

If I were running for Pres, I might not touch an online radio program unless it were regularly topping 10k or more...but I really don't know much about podcasts and what the listenership typically can top out at.

My show and the Kenna James show have been #1 and #2 on OnTilt Radio all year. My show took #1 for May. For the genre, it's doing well.

Additionally, PPA publicizes stuff like this on its website and via social networks and email updates. I also publicize through my own poker advocacy social network (@RichMuny/facebook.com/rich.muny) and as well as that of the show (@PokerAdvocacy/facebook.com/PokerAdvocacy).

I have no problem with him choosing not to bother with it. He was on last year, so he's more than covered. He can certainly get more listeners on other venues (though it's not as clear that he can sway as many Fox viewers as he can those who enjoy poker webcasts).

What I was stating here was that they are not responding to my emails at all. Given the publicity we have given their campaign and the communication we once had, this is a distinct change.

This kinda shows why Gary Johnson failed so miserably to begin with. Any politician who's any good would know it's better not to have reached out at all, than to reach out to a group, then blow them off and get them mad at you.

Nikki Haley doesn't need RedState.com anymore. But she's never just going to blow off Erick Erickson for no reason. You don't make people mad at you needlessly.

True. I don't get why they couldn't have had a volunteer reply with, "Sorry, but Gov. Johnson is very busy with national media. We appreciate your support and encourage you to mention http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/coalitions/poker on your program. Thanks again!" I write letters to supporters for PPA all the time....it's common sense.

Speaking of which, http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/coalitions/poker topped the sites' "Issues" pulldown menu just a few days ago. Now it's gone.