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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Take it as I don't feel like it if you wish. But I really don't know and I don't think it matters. If I though it mattered I would probably have more idea...
Of course it matters. If 1 in a million threads were being derailed by this kinda name calling who cares? If it's 1%... well again who cares. If it's 10% maybe it's worth addressing. If it's 50% yeah, it's a problem. So, sure, I can bark up this tree instead...
* Would you guesstimate if 0.01%, or 0.1%, or 1%, or 10%, or 50% of threads are derailed by these two kinds of name calling?
* Of the two kinds, would you guestimate the ratio is closer to 25%/75%, or 50%/50%, or 75%/25%?
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... Gibberish is bad for a discussion but someone has to judge that and it's tough...
No, it's not tough at all with shiz like "hard/far left" or "SJW". A non-gibberish answer is in the form of a heuristic that can be used IRL to distinguish the {set of peeps who are X} -vs- the {set of peeps who are not X}. Applying the heuristic could be tough IRL, of course.
Example:
A: "You have a Prime Sandy Beach B"
B: "WTF do you mean by that shiz?"
A: "Simply if we counted the grains of sand, the total would be a prime number"
The answer A gave isn't gibberish... but would be devilishly hard to judge the truth value. However, and again we went through this all in depth in the old baja, those who name call using "hard/far/etc left" and "SJW", can't give any such heuristic at all. Ask them the simplest question about WTF they mean... their complete inability to answer will make this all painfully obvious.
This is easy enough to demonstrate all over again ITT if you wish...
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
... the far left seem completely clueless...
Hey
juan valdez, could you give us a heuristic that we can use IRL to distinguish which peeps you refer to as (a) "far left", (b) "near left", (c) the center, (d) "near right" and (e) "far right"? Could you give us examples of how this heuristic applies to the following famous US pols: B.Sanders, D.Trump, G.Wallace, B.Clinton and R.Reagan?