Obviously racism is not cool but plenty of things that aren't cool are tolerated on the site. Why is there such sensitivity about this one issue? It seems really arbitrary. Why draw a line in the sand guarded with tanks and bazookas for racism but let people bash gays, objectify women and glamorize drug use to their hearts content?

If the following were posted on Facebook, Twitter, Quora, Digg, Reddit or any other large community site:



Do you think the response from a moderator would be something like this?



Implicit in his post is that what that guy posted was going to get him banned no matter who saw the post. Was what he posted ignorant, inaccurate, trolling and just plain stupid? Sure. But not any moreso than all of the other ignorant, inaccurate, trolling and stupid things which are posted every minute of every day.

Whats the deal here? Is Mason Malmuth married to a black woman or something?

raceism is bad and shows unintelligence

why anyone would want to look stupid and say raceist things shows no character

As a good christian, i alwas make sure i am well respected by my peers, i dont wanna look like a douche on the internet

racism is bad is a poor answer to this question. lots of things are bad. lots of things don't result in an immediate lifetime ban.

racism on 2+2 is in the same class as childporn. i'd like to know why that is. it is a very unusual stance among large community websites.

So racism is bad but if people bash gays, objectify women and glamorize drug. We might as well be racist? Got it.

you make 27 posts in 7 years, but decide to defend racism?

you make 6,000 posts in 2 years and make a worthless post?

oh wait, actually that makes perfect sense.

actually that was the first post of elrey's I've ever read that wasn't worthless. he raises a good point. of all the things 2p2 does that you could chose to complain about, why are you sensitive about their stance against racism?

As someone who frequents the politics forum I'd like to say that that forum is exceptionally well modded, wookie is an excellent mod, and other mods should look to him to see how to do it imo.

are you actually comparing 2p2 with facebook and twitter?

As a good Pagan I'd like to point out your efforts are in vain.

C'mon man, racism is a little worst then "not cool".

If u wont to put this in a cool/not cool perspective, banning a racist is pretty cool imo.
O, now I see why u mad...

I was not criticizing his modding, as he said he isn't even the mod who banned this guy. And the mod who did was just doing something every single other mod would have done as well.

Did the immigration thread get taken down ? The guy banned is sadly in the near majority of peoples views towards immigration.

Yes, I am. I don't see any difference where this issue is concerned. All three are international community websites owned by Americans. However only one of them tries to tell their users how to think about the world around them with arbitrary Amerocentric content rules.

Exactly. Most people are ignorant and stupid. If you want to ban for ignorance and stupidity there are much easier ways to identify those people than to wait for them to be engaged in a discussion about race.

Is it as bad as child porn? Because that is what 2+2's stance says.

Ebony And ivory live together in perfect harmony
side by side on my piano keyboard
oh Lord, why don't we?

lol. one has over 900 million users and the other 140 million users so they are about 1000 times larger than 2p2. facebook/twitter users are not creating content as part as a community forum but as individuals maintaining their own page. despite having 1000 times more users, each twitter/fb post is seen by a fraction of the number of users who read an average 2p2 post. 2p2 is much more similar to the comments section on an online news site than it is to a social networking site. granted, 2p2 is similar to a twitter/fb in that they are all on the internet.

yes, in just the same way that the stance of US legislators says that mass rape and murder is the same as shoplifting.

please respond

the same applies to every other type of site you mentioned, regardless of their size.

2+2 has a very unique stance to this one issue, while being really normal on all others. i'd like to know why.

I haven't seen any other things they do that are completely absurd.

I was under the impression that child porn ------> IP to FBI.

If you are heavily racist I imagine you're just going to lose your account until you figure out how to make a new one.

Wait, not tolerating racism is Amerocentric?

How so? We can't do anything beyond banning people - there's no superban+ that we can give for child porn. The fact that two offenses are given the same consequence doesn't mean they're being treated the same, if that's the most we can do.

But I think child porn (which I've never seen here) would get you an instant permaban every single time; racism won't.

I learned a long time ago not to try to have an intelligent political conversation in the politics forum, because you are hampered to much by having to be "politically correct" that you cannot really be rational or intelligent.

Better off moving it to the SMP or some other forum where the mods are not on such power trips and do not get an erection every time they get a chance to ban someone.