Yeah, people see y'all are unfair and stubborn- don't look at the whole who and why picture and rely on clever but repetitive and partial claims about individuals. Strangely, this leads to you facing bystanders intervening on behalf of the person you have targeted. Well it's not strange to me, but maybe to others who didn't notice.

Look what I found: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...d-cartoon.html

That's old news and lol at Fox for driving lewd narratives about the arts.

So it’s not satire then? Just trying to pin down how you’re writing this off. Also, post after offered no clarification on the one in question.

Zeno's writing style does fairly look to include include ample sarcasm, when not written off by motivated activists.

I'm a motivated activist under my real name and publicly, so please don't take my last post as a criticism of motivated activists, but an endorsement of endeavor to do it better.

I didn't say it was satire. I said it was "tongue in cheek" or that's how it appears to me. It appears to be said in a humorous vein and the following post confirms that impression to me. As do his other quoted posts.

If you can't see that then I'm sorry, maybe get some lessons on humor or something.

Well, even given his sloppy wording, I can see his point in that it's certainly possible that post was tongue in cheek. Whether it actually was or not, I couldn't say.

Jesus H Christ. Not only don't you have a sense of humor but you're a pedantic word nit as well.

FYI, I said humor and satire. Two different words with different meanings. Now maybe I should have said humor and/or satire to be absolutely grammatically perfect, but ffs.

Just because they might have been a failed attempt at humor doesn't mean the posts aren't objectionable and stupid.

Mat, that's a pretty mellow **** you. Perhaps RATM is a little hard core for your tastes?

Bobo, at what point iyo does someone who continuously expresses bigotry become a bigot? Just curious.

Oh, and by the way, most of the original posts were posted in the SMP drunk thread. LOL

Maybe that should give more credence to the humor angle.

Just a thought.

No one is arguing that Zeno wasn't trying to be funny.

Like slapstick. It often involves violence and harm placed upon innocent folks. The worst stuff imaginable. Totally never funny.

Agreed.

How are thinking I'm going to be able to answer that?

• 17 days.
• After 7 B-level occurrences, or 3 A-level occurrences, according to the International Bigotry Guidelines.
• 'bout tree fiddy.

Not to make light of bigotry, but that's a pretty unanswerable question. Unless of course you just take the stance that if someone makes a single bigoted comment, they are a bigot. A lot of the time, they are, of course. But that's something I don't like to assume of a person unless I'm pretty damn certain.

No, it doesn't. If the recipient isn't in on the joke, that's not slapstick - that's something that can vary between a prank or indeed something cruel and not funny.

It depends imo.

One comment: Not conclusive, but definitely a red flag
A couple comments over the span of a long time: still not conclusive, but I'm getting a lean
More than a few comments in a short amount of time: confirmed bigot

There are influential factors, however.

Trump supporter? Not conclusive, but getting a lean.
Trump supporter and a single comment: Confirmed bigot.

Mostly agree with all but your last sentence.

I know a (very) few people who are Trump supporters, and they are for a variety of reasons. Disagree with them though I do, I think it's very unfair to prejudge them like that - a form of bigotry, in fact.

But we're going down an unneeded political road with this IMO.

It will be a very tough sell to convince me that the remaining portion of Trump's ever shrinking support base isn't fundamentally supportive of Trump based on bigotry. This is the president of the KKK and neo-nazis.

Like I said, Trump supporter? Not necessarily a bigot. Trump supporter and a single expression of bigotry, stone cold bigot.

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So posting obviously provocative material in the typical not serious drunk thread all the while political correctness wars were rage all around was a result of what? if not like slapstick, insults, and other sorts of grown up childish misanthropic humor? Why should we pretend Zeno is an ignorant bigot when it seems more plausible and obvious he is a writer, plainly labeled as a misanthrope?

Few people except inductees into your religion are going to take such ugly expressions of bigotry and bad faith toward your fellow man, seriously. Your comment here is far uglier and far more negatively impactful (including, amsuingly, on your aims) than any of Zeno's high-minded utterances.

The belief that you can see into the heart of your fellow man with such certainty and so little evidence is equal parts comical and sad. Firstly, just on statistics, you're probably not intelligent enough., and you're not well lived enough, or philosophically sophisticated enough. That's not specific to you, that's just a general comment. The same is true of me.

Everyone in every moral panic ever could see deeply into the heart of the unbelievers, the heretics, the witch-defenders, and they could do it on next to no evidence. You think you're different? You're clearly not:

Didn't go to Church last week? Not necessarily a heretic. Didn't go to Church last week and seen talking with a suspected witch? Confirmed heretic/possible satan worshipper.

Don't you see the absurd comedy of it all? How you're a carbon copy of people you'd hate, just with different subject matter?

You're providing precisely the reason why Zeno shouldn't answer your objections or anyone elses, and precisely the reason why we should go on offending your bad-faith sensibilities. To give in to your disgusting, low-minded, worst-assuming-of-your-fellow man bigotry is just to invite more of it, ever more acute. We can already see that with sexism and racism claims, the bar for which has gotten lower and lower and lower and the bad faith, higher and higher, until even people on your side are saying "hang on a sec..."

And then we get Trump as a blowback against your bigotry. Congratulations, you?

Take a step back, take a breath, and let Zeno blow off some steam. You're doing far more harm to the human condition and general good relations than he ever has or will. Relax, stop needing to police people, broaden your mind a little.

Because there is no evidence he hates rich white Christian men. A misanthropist hates everyone, including rich white Christian men, not just brown people, old people, and poor people.

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Yeah, really hating on those brown/non-white people.

Your inquisition is absurd. Why do you have such horrible, personal-attack misanthropy and bad faith toward your fellow posters, that's not even based on evidence but just cause you "know" he's a racist in your heart, the epistemology of which is: voted or Trump + a SINGLE expression of bigotry = bigot deep in his heart.

Your expressed views and your witch hunt mentality are way more toxic than Zeno's. Should we ban you? I certainly don't want that, but I'm not a small-minded totalitarian or a thought policer.

Why don't we all just be a little more open and a little less judging/thought policing/jumping to conclusions? From your posts here I'd assume you're a bad faith bigot, if I used your simple stated epistemology that you apply to anyone outside your circle. But why would I? What does that achieve? What do you learn? What do you make better?