See, you don't even know Zeno, and you probably won't by demanding and waiting. You have quite an attitude of authority about bigotry to so casually dismiss misanthropy.

Do supporting banning creative writing which portrays bigotry since it's functionally in the category same as a misanthropic rant?

Which behavior and what contexts can pass your tests?

Maybe the guy's just got a weird sense of humor. That's the impression I get.

Of course we know that's not allowed in PC land.

Still waiting.

It's sad how hard y'all get at the opportunity to call someone a bigot/racist/POS/fascist/whatever.

All you're doing is degrading the terms to petty insults.

Oh, and big lol at zikzac.

Which of Zeno's racial slurs and sterotypes were the high-minded ones?

They all seemed like pretty lame jokes to me.

Unlike Ziczak who assumed since the guy said some stuff that sounds racist he must be just another boorish ugly American. Cause, you know, Americans are uniquely racist.

What are the punchlines?

alright zeno posts stuff that will make some gag.
but the difference between him and a racist is that he does not mean what he is writing. you are supposed to see through the lines. if you cant then you are just like the ones that write the letters to the editors in the newspaper.

and of course he is definitely way off from being worried about political correctness., he isnt a politician or even has a job anymore.

So, uh, your thesis is how dare we degrade lame racist jokes by insulting the lame joker, the jokes of whom, at the most charitable, are insult comedy?

Uh, no it's not.

It's that y'all are too easily offended and too quick to judge.

Evidence?

I must be bad at reading between the lines, because I don't know what it means to be "just like the ones that write the letters to the editors in the newspaper."

Then why did you say this:

No, I assumed he was American because he was talking to an Indian customer service rep in English and he has implied that he lives in the US as recently as last Friday.

And to help you out since you still seem to be struggling with this, "ugly American" is not a generalization of Americans. It is a subset description primarily attributed to those traveling abroad who display a certain set of bad manners.

lol did you Wikipedia and do some research on the words you use?

Keep flailing/failing.

Wookie, connect the dots.

Misanthropic rants aren't high minded by nature and design. It's pretty disdainful to see them cherry picked and framed repeatedly with a narrow context.

No, unlike you I didn't need to.

They don't connect. If I am too quick to judge, that implies I judged incorrectly. If I degraded the terms, that implies not that I am wrong, but that I did something like call my opponent an idiot rather than show that he was wrong with a reputable citation.

The evidence would be those of us who have interacted on these forums for over a decade with zeno. Having a 2017 join date you wouldn't have done that so don't understand fully his forum personality.

As for the letters to the editor comment I think he means you are taking things too literally.

I've never particularly cared for Zeno's posting style, but my impression is that he just leans way too hard on the devil-may-care misanthropic affect because he thinks it's kind of cool, and the tone is intended to be ironic. I'm not sure that always comes across or is worth tolerating in its more extreme forms, but I do think it's qualitatively different from BruceZ, whose claims to devil's advocacy were never particularly believable, or toothsayer, who is one of the most repulsive people I've ever encountered online and who I'm sure actually believes a lot of the vile things he posts, whether he also intends to troll or not. Partly my opinion of Zeno's intent is based on his reactions to threads I've posted in dealing with topics like race or racism.

So, my opinion is that it seems reasonable enough to want to whack zeno with a rolled-up newspaper for some of those posts, and tell him that maybe that style of posting is problematic, but I'm not seeing the need to give him the full pitchforks and torches treatment. YMMV

he has a post in politics claiming to be a US republican, so...

Ouch. Sick one bigot.

So you were calling him a rude tourist. Makes sense.

You could just admit you said something kinda dumb on the internet and move on, but that'll never happen.

I spoke with him a few times in a previous life and thought I remembered learning that he was German, or maybe just lived in Germany at the time, in my interactions with him.

Ok so he's a US Republican misanthropist who hates everyone equally. Where specifically are his posts hating on rich white Americans and Christians? I know he doesn't hate Trump and his administration, because he made a post fairly recently thanking God for Trump.

A Trumper who posts vile hatred against brown people, foreigners, old people, and poor people. Yeah, thinking this guy is probably a bigot is a huuuuuge stretch of the imagination

I'm sur he only likes Trump because it upsets liberals and non-misanthropes, and we all know that supporting structural racism isn't racist if there is any aspect of the support that isn't completely racist.

he was basically jerking off over being able to vote for palin because of how mad it would make libruls

i guess the question becomes, how much blatant bigotry do we tolerate from mods when it's just being "edgy"? And is there really a good reason to care that there's a difference? Do the various people who might consider frequenting this site but get driven away due to open bigotry from forum officials care that there's a difference?

so I guess we can close the book on if hes racist or not.