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11-30-2017 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Sorry, but these unsupported assertions wouldn't hold up in a COURT of LAW and certainly don't hold up here. Your case remains unproven, I'm afraid.
Goofy, haven't you got some fake news or something to post over in P? That's your normal routine, isn't it?
11-30-2017 , 03:54 AM
It is ever so enjoyable to watch someone yelling things like this at liberals (deleting and rewriting his posts multiple times in the process)...

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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
You are totally out of touch with reality, because all you hear are sympathetic, soothing voices of agreement. Your twisted world view suffers from extreme confirmation bias. You preach diversity but in practice you revel in non-diversity of thought.

It really is incredibly dangerous.
...with zero self-awareness, while his head is so far up Donald Trump's ass that anything which didn't come from his Twitter feed is "fake news".



Speaking of fake news, did you hear about O'Keefe sending an employee to make up fake rape accusations to try (and fail) to discredit actual sexual assault victims and defend pedophile Roy Moore? Man, that's gotta be embarrassing.
11-30-2017 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lenC
You know that when people here tell you that you guys need to stop clutching your pearls and getting offended at every single thing, it's not a joke, right? I mean, it is funny but it's also true.

When I'm picturing a grown adult making posts like these, I just feel embarrassed for you.
I'm not really surprised by this response. I mean life is pretty good, right? Have any appreciation for the sacrifices that your forefathers took to keep your country free? Doesn't look like it.
11-30-2017 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
What’s worse?

[ ] being called a nazi

[ ] being a nazi
It is nice to throw around these words with complete immunity as you stand behind your anonymity. Try putting your real name and then saying it. Actually that should become the test for most of what is said in P.

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Originally Posted by zikzak
Hey Sushy, is it OK if adios calls people anti-Semites without proof?
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Hey adios, do you object to posters being called racist without proof?
No wonder you have nearly racked up 20,000 posts posting like this - you couldn't just make this one post given that they were posted at the same time? I mean where is the originality?

Last edited by bundy5; 11-30-2017 at 05:00 AM.
11-30-2017 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
LOL. Of course. Your own delusional words.

See, this is the problem with you guys and your echo-chamber mentality. You are totally out of touch with reality, because all you hear are sympathetic, soothing voices of agreement. Your twisted world view suffers from extreme confirmation bias. You preach diversity but in practice you revel in non-diversity of thought.

It really is incredibly dangerous.
Again with the plural pronouns. Nobody is agreeing with me. A couple folks are calling me names, and the one person who took the time to directly address what I wrote did so to disagree with me. These echos you hear seem to be paracusia.
11-30-2017 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by auralex14
I didn't attribute anything you said to him. I added that to memorialize your stupidity. You're Chicken Little, dude.
11-30-2017 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
LOL. Of course. Your own delusional words.

See, this is the problem with you guys and your echo-chamber mentality. You are totally out of touch with reality, because all you hear are sympathetic, soothing voices of agreement. Your twisted world view suffers from extreme confirmation bias. You preach diversity but in practice you revel in non-diversity of thought.

It really is incredibly dangerous.
And yet it's what you and Bundy crave; a safe space for conservatives to tell each other what they already know with no bad wiberals making fun of them!

Last edited by kerowo; 11-30-2017 at 09:49 AM.
11-30-2017 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
You can say whatever you like, but if you want people to believe you then you need to supply proof.
LOL, from a closed forum full of deleted and edited posts? Idiot.
11-30-2017 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bundy5
It is nice to throw around these words with complete immunity as you stand behind your anonymity. Try putting your real name and then saying it. Actually that should become the test for most of what is said in P.
And yet you won't answer the question even though you've taken the extra anonymity step of living in a different racist country than the USA. Here, I'll use safer words for you:

Is it better to:

[ ] be called a clown

[ ] actually be a clown

You should be able to tell from this re-write that the question really had nothing to do with the n word (the one you don't like, not the one you do).
11-30-2017 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
And yet it's what you and Bundy crave; a safe space for conservatives to tell each other what they already know with no bad wiberals making fun of them!
You are completely wrong actually. I welcome different opinions and disagreement. It makes for much more interesting debate. All we are asking for is a level playing field.

Liberals would be very welcome in the proposed new forum as far a I am concerned. We don't mind being made fun of. It's just the lies that we object to.
11-30-2017 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Original Position
There were approximately zero Nazi sympathizers in p7. I don't know, maybe somewhere in ToothSayer's oeuvre he sympathized with the Nazis, but otherwise I saw zero posters that said sympathetic things about Naziism.



The Godwin Rule is about how internet disputes eventually end in useless Nazi analogies. This doesn't have anything to do with analogies, you think you are arguing with actual Nazis.
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
People were sharing Stormfront-grade anti-Semetic conspiracy theories about how white supremacists were framed by George Soros, but no one was actually self-identifying as a literal Nazi, so I guess all the criticism of P7 is just totally overblown.
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Originally Posted by Original Position
I'm not making a semantic point. Markksman claimed there were a lot of Nazi sympathizers and ideological Nazis in P7. I read enough of P7 to be familiar with the regs and none of them were Nazi sympathizers, so that is a false statement. I don't know the posters in Politics forum very well, so I usually don't have any useful response to derogatory claims made against them.
I don't remember who posted what in the dying days of P7, but as Trolly says people were posting some Stormfront grade takes. Namely that the counter-protesters were worst than the protesters and/or that they were funded by Soros, etc.

That is pretty much nazi sympathizing. You can maybe quibble about whether these people really like nazis or have just been tricked into posting Stormfront talking points in order to pwn the libs, but I don't think it is really too relevant.
11-30-2017 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
not the cock?
gay ducks?
11-30-2017 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
I don't remember who posted what in the dying days of P7, but as Trolly says people were posting some Stormfront grade takes. Namely that the counter-protesters were worst than the protesters and/or that they were funded by Soros, etc.

That is pretty much nazi sympathizing. You can maybe quibble about whether these people really like nazis or have just been tricked into posting Stormfront talking points in order to pwn the libs, but I don't think it is really too relevant.
This is incorrect. There was only one poster who said that (bolded). And I don't recall any saying the counter-protesters were worse. There were some who said the violence was started by the counter-protesters.
11-30-2017 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
I think the word "nazi" is so over-used these days (much like the word "racist") that it has been devalued almost to the point of being meaningless.
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
... But seriously, those words are carelessly thrown around so much in these forums that it just becomes a big yawn tbh. The shock value disappeared long ago.
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Calling out racists for being racists (with proof) is fine. Calling out non-racists for being racists (without proof) is not. Same thing with nazis...
Above you are of the opinion that the words 'nazi' & 'racist' are "meaningless"... like "dilly-dilly" I imagine. But... below you say using the word 'racist' to refer to an anonymous poaster a "bad"?

What do you mean by "bad" here ???/?

I can imagine these kinda answers...
  1. Taking your meaningless assertion at face value, posting "You are into nazism/racism" is equivalent to posting "you are into dilly-dilly". In that case you wouldn't mean "bad" in the sense of hurting feelings, or necessarily derailing the conversation. You are just against any silliness in forum discussion. Is this what you mean ??

  2. This is what ToothSayer was saying... before he was unceremoniously exiled to BFI. He was saying that the historical 1930s Nazis were evil, and that name calling folks today with that name would hurt their feelings... but, as a matter of comparison, name calling folks things like "SJW" doesn't hurt folks feelings. Is this why you feel this is "bad" ??

  3. The traditional explanation of this alleged badness is this archetypical exchange: A: <something possibly racist>; B: You are spewing racism A; A: Well I've never been so insulted, Good Day sir !!!1! <quits discussion>. This is, of course, a completely unrelated and distinct kinda "badness" than either excessive silliness, and hurting feelings, discussed above Are you referencing this kinda "badness" ??

  4. And, of course, you could mean none of the above. Did you mean a none of the above ??
11-30-2017 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
OK. I can help out here. You are legit unhinged.

Hope that helps.
You are the most obsessive-compulsive troll on 2p2. You don't get to call people unhinged until you get that in check.
11-30-2017 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
I enjoyed watching that. Thanks for sharing
11-30-2017 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
You are completely wrong actually. I welcome different opinions and disagreement. It makes for much more interesting debate. All we are asking for is a level playing field.

Liberals would be very welcome in the proposed new forum as far a I am concerned. We don't mind being made fun of. It's just the lies that we object to.
If you objected to lies you would take down the avatar of trump who retweets racists propaganda lies.


The folks who dont want me to be able to call trump or gorka a racists and want to shut that speech down are asking for a safe space from it.
11-30-2017 , 12:25 PM
I definitely think that in order to get posting rights in the new forum you should have to respond (in good faith) to at least three shame trolley socratic method posts. Even just one would probably weed out all the zero content trolls looking for a safe space to derp.
11-30-2017 , 12:53 PM
Why does it not surprise me that you're impressed by Shame Trolly's fatuous interrogations.
11-30-2017 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
I definitely think that in order to get posting rights in the new forum you should have to respond (in good faith) to at least three shame trolley socratic method posts. Even just one would probably weed out all the zero content trolls looking for a safe space to derp.

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Originally Posted by auralex14
Why does it not surprise me that you're impressed by Shame Trolly's fatuous interrogations.
Exhibit A.
11-30-2017 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
This is incorrect. There was only one poster who said that (bolded). And I don't recall any saying the counter-protesters were worse. There were some who said the violence was started by the counter-protesters.
This doesn't really counter my post. I never said or implied that multiple posters posted that specific thing and as I said I don't remember specifically who all of the perpetrators were.

Also, popping into a thread about an incident where a counter-protester at neo-nazi rally was murdered by one of the aforementioned neo-nazis in order to point out that, well actually, the counter-protesters started the violence is veering pretty close to nazi sympathizing as well.

Look, it is true that sometimes people get called nazis when they are not doing anything nazi-related, but pointing out nazi sympathy in that thread was absolutely factually accurate.
11-30-2017 , 01:41 PM
I found some fake news for Sushy, since he hates lies and everything

11-30-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
Above you are of the opinion that the words 'nazi' & 'racist' are "meaningless"... like "dilly-dilly" I imagine. But... below you say using the word 'racist' to refer to an anonymous poaster a "bad"?

What do you mean by "bad" here ???/?

I can imagine these kinda answers...
  1. Taking your meaningless assertion at face value, posting "You are into nazism/racism" is equivalent to posting "you are into dilly-dilly". In that case you wouldn't mean "bad" in the sense of hurting feelings, or necessarily derailing the conversation. You are just against any silliness in forum discussion. Is this what you mean ??

  2. This is what ToothSayer was saying... before he was unceremoniously exiled to BFI. He was saying that the historical 1930s Nazis were evil, and that name calling folks today with that name would hurt their feelings... but, as a matter of comparison, name calling folks things like "SJW" doesn't hurt folks feelings. Is this why you feel this is "bad" ??

  3. The traditional explanation of this alleged badness is this archetypical exchange: A: <something possibly racist>; B: You are spewing racism A; A: Well I've never been so insulted, Good Day sir !!!1! <quits discussion>. This is, of course, a completely unrelated and distinct kinda "badness" than either excessive silliness, and hurting feelings, discussed above Are you referencing this kinda "badness" ??

  4. And, of course, you could mean none of the above. Did you mean a none of the above ??
That last post of mine that you quoted is fairly self-explanatory I believe.

For example; If someone calls me a nazi/racist and I know I'm not a nazi/racist, while the accuser can't provide any proof, then the word becomes meaningless to me in that specific context. I mean, it's still offensive up to a point but the impact is devalued. Especially if it is repeated over and over again.

Hope that answers your question.
11-30-2017 , 03:22 PM
You may be lying to yourself.
11-30-2017 , 05:11 PM
Objective reality doesn't matter. If Sushy doesn't think Sushy is racist, that's good enough for Sushy.

      
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