Then why don't we have a conservative political forum? I'll mod it and be death on racism, although I doubt it would come up much. It'll get plenty of traffic.

1/3 of even deep blue voting NY is a Trump supporter. 30% of US Mexicans are Trump supporters. Geographically, the entire US is red. I find it hard to fathom how someone can live a balanced life and not know many Trump supporters. It's like Southern Christians not knowing many atheists and being afraid/bigoted toward them, something I find equally weird, except Trump supporters are everywhere in large numbers.

ToothSayer, I'll make an equivalency I think you can understand.

Bernie Sanders supporter? Not necessarily a SJW cuck, but there's a lean.

Bernie Sanders supporter, and a single comment about gun control, trans rights, or immigrants rights? Stone cold SJW cuck.

Also, hi.

ToothSayer, why do you need a safe space? Sounds pretty cucky to me. Just post in politics.

He's exiled, for reasons well named explained

awwwww poor ToothSayer. What a cuck.

Id have to boycott 2p2. And hahahahah.....

I don't agree with this at all. Tons of legitimate reasons to support Bernie Sanders and any of these three.

I'm a Trump supporter hugely in favor of gun control; if I was slightly less amused by Trump (I went from horrified to amused) , I'd be a Bernie supporter and fit your criteria for a SJW cuck. It's all just silly.

Your suppositions about people just stink. It really isn't that simple. Zeno's expressions of "bigotry" are really just high minded "burn all this silliness' mind fluffs, from a misanthropic idealist. It even says "Le misanthrope" in his title. Why the burning urge to police his self expression?

Mr Wookie lets people mock and chastise white people and men (sexist and racist). einbert went on a particularly weird multi post rant that if I changed "white" for "black" would be insta perma. Why the discrepancy? Because it's believed in modern circles that it's a balancing act and white people deserve it for all their crimes/power in some kind of weird, racist race guilt. I don't agree with that and find it disgusting bigotry/racism/sexism.

What if Zeno thinks that Indians deserve it as Wookie thinks white people deserve it? Does he get to beat up on them then? Their caste system isn't very nice. Or Muslims, many of whose countries lock up, beat and kill gays and treat women as property. Is "a pox on your Imams" really not deserved? Who gets to decide? You?

I'd be a lot more on your side if you didn't have bigotry in your own heart and if you thought that no expressions of bad faith (toward individuals or groups) were tolerable.
Hi. You managed to find he one pic where she looks nice.

How about no.

I'll concede this one, there is nothing recent in a quick search, although I'm not sure what to search for. Christianity bashing isn't as big as it used to be.

No idea. I guess you could ask him.

I'm not pretending anything, and I don't think anyone else is either.

Wrong thread.

Takeaways from this thread/the quotes that OP complained about:

- No calling women "bitches".
- No pointing out that many Indians are cow worshippers (although they are and it's not an insult, and it's actually an insult to suggest it's an insult)
- No wishing for nuking of a country, however frivolous
- No disparaging of the English or Irish
- No pointing out that China has many fit and beautiful women
- No pointing out that Danes on bicycles can be crazy/dangerous to pedestrians
- No discussion of voluntary sterilization for extra welfare as a potential social policy.
- No mention that the high hand jackpot could be 55 gallon drums of Viagra given the number of geriatrics playing.

We should sticky these in the rules in the mod forum to prevent their recurrence.

Those quotes do look rough, but every time I take a peek into any forum/thread on this site that has to do with politics, it's just like every news story's comments section online: a total ****show of hatred and tunnel vision and bias.

Really thought Zeno should pop in here and give his take though, but guess that's not happening.

Doesn't the free expression of science and philosophical ideas mean that sometimes you are going to offend certain races with your argument to fully explore an issue, including where the origins of the issue comes from?

Certain people like autistics do take things very literally. Pretend that the op was say someone like PVN who has admitted that he's on the autistic spectrum then we could understand him taking a literal reading of Zeno ( who is an exceptionally fine writer). Then left leaning as well as right leaning politards may become triggered after an autistic spazes out over someones writing, causing a cascading effect of ******ation.

Stay classy.

Thanks, I'll take that into account. I think my writing style is poetic, maybe not classy. Much like Zeno's.

edit - although I'll never be as good as Zeno.

I guess this was an edgy response to ToothSayer probably the worst poster on the site.

Now lets leave aside use of the word gypsy which is problematic but some old ****er that developed his worldview 40 years ago can possibly be forgiven then the first line in this could be considered edgy, trying to make a point in response to Toothsayer but this becomes less likely when we consider the rest of the post. In which he blindly accepts the racist musings of someone who was apparently better informed than him and has held the view since. His use of vile gypsies is racist and not just some rhetorical device.

Gypsy whores. Nice. Real nice public representative you have, 2p2.

Wow. Really hard to pretend that was meant to be humor.

No. That's something only dumb bigots believe.

Rich white Germans is pretty specific but hate of Christians as a misanthropic literary device is prevalent in Zeno's writings, along with hate ( purely in fun) for everyone else:

Regarding Jesus:
Regarding Christians:

fyp

The internet is full to the brim with stupid arguments about things far less important than politics.

Trolly, you can't be serious. Zizak, wow.
It was an enlightened response. Calling people racist for relaying an interesting conversation/personal experience is the opposite of that. The world's more complex and more gray than our polite prejudices or desires.
The use of an ordinary, non-derogatory word "can possibly be forgiven"? How very big of you, being kind enough to forgive a perfectly normal word and not instantly damn the writer as racist. The high priest of heresy is kind.

Are you listening to yourself? Responses like yours are precisely why people like Zeno should keep offending your sensibilities. Your thought policing views are ridiculous and offensive in themselves, and very dangerous.

By the way, do you think a gypsy would care if I called them a gypsy? How many have you met? It's not even in the slightest sense a slur except in the fevered imaginations of people who live 10,000 miles away from actual gypsies. Why the pointless white knighting? It's not to help gypsies. You want to eradicate all expression of thoughts that are heretical to your religion/tribe, and currently fashionable hair-trigger heresy is racism. That's a rather nasty instinct imo, one that's worse than racism and has harmed far more people.What's more, it doesn't know any bounds. There is always a more subtle heresy to seek out, a stronger punishment to eradicate it. We saw how that played in China and Russia over 50 years. It's a disgusting instinct, and far more disruptive and divisive and time wasting than even the bad expressions of racism.
Ugh, no, he's describing the view of someone else ("tirade against the vile gypsies"), and how his narrow minded views quickly slipped away in the face of humiliating inexperience. That's a wise and humble man. Racist witch hunting is making you misunderstand the basic structure of a sentence. Zeno is describing the guy's view/the content of his rant, not his own views. Jesus man.

We're getting to a point in the heresy witch hunt where even relaying a conversation makes you a racist (see above), because it "puts racist ideas out there". Then (some of the less enlightened of you are already there) we'll get to a point where associating with people who use the word "gypsy" or vote for a particular person who's against immigration are scum who no one should associate with, let you give the enemy aid and comfort.

You think the path you're going down is healthy? Take a breath and remove the beam from thine own eye.

Anyway I've had more than my say so I'll bow out, but this idea that it's ok to gang up and microanalyze every utterance for evidence of racism/heresy/communism/paganism/gay-sympathy/sexism/capitalist views (pick your age, pick your heresy) is pretty sick/weird, and the people who do it not that together imo. If we simply disparaged the people who did that, the world would be a far better place in any age you choose to pick.

Nowadays the busybodies are so stark raving bonkers you can't even discuss the concept that fewer females might work as coders at Google might be because of choice or aptitude, not sexism. People get fired for that. Banned from forums for not taking on board the religious belief that "of course it's sexism, innate and institutional".

Weird world. Hope 2p2 isn't going down that path outside of the politics forum.

You'll find gypsy on this list

wikipedia list of ethnic slurs


My wife works with Roma pretty much every day and it is absolutely considered a slur. However my point was the later condemnation of all as vile. Now back to whatever ****ing hole you crept out of.