Do feel free to look, but she's actively making changes so things are in flux.

It's already looking a lot more promising. Nice job Kiera!

Kieras changes are absolutely a huge improvement and it gives me comfort and makes me feel like we're in safe hands through these deeply troubling times.

I just want to repeat my plea for something looking like the current 'slick' theme. I honestly think 2+2 with the slick theme is the best the internets have ever produced when it comes to forums. It's a thing of beauty and if it has to die, it should be displayed in some museum as an example of what we've lost along the way.

one thing that's better about vanilla is that you can just copy and paste youtube and twitter. ex: https://twoplustwo.vanillacommunitie...i-there#latest

Sure would be nice to get something like the old app for Android.

But then... if you don't know/understand that you have to copy just the id-part of a youtube-address and embed it into youtube-tags to make it show up... do you really deserve to post a youtube-video on a forum..?

Will we have the same skin options as now? I use the Fusion Fixed Width option.



PairTheBoard

The nice thing about just using the id-part of the youtube address like we do now is it eliminates the commercial you might see if you watched the video on youtube. Will the new "copy-paste" method do the same thing?


PairTheBoard

direct embedding of youtube/twitter is whatever and probably a net negative for reasons already pointed out, but we can survive the inevitable resulting deluge of anti-vax, cat, and flat earth vids from the dumbs.

just please tell me that the new forum software will prevent people from signing their posts, not sure how much more of that we can take

I resemble that remark.

Change works, with hiccups, every time.

Can we get an optional font size in the Vanilla version? That would be an improvement.


PairTheBoard

Can you do something about this negative space thing? I usually browse 2+2 on a 22" monitor swiveled by 90°. This works fine atm:



But with the new layout it's unbearable:



Could we please consider those with alternative displaying choices?

The only thing wrong with the latest version is the big fat dark green bar by people's names. Otherwise looks fine to me.

Please fill the space with ads in such threads, to give us something interesting to read.

please do not

I would take ads between posts.

QFT


I assume that even if it isn't a default option that someone like Gregorio can probably skin whatever default option 2+2 gives us using Stylus. The grey one he posted earlier was decent enough when I tested it but I just deleted it for now until things are actually migrated over then I will try it again, or hope that he or someone else is working on a slick variant for stylus.

As a forum admin myself we are making the exact same switch to Vanilla Forums 3.3 from vBulletin. The software is just old and archaic. They are a paid software and not GNU licensed like Vanilla. There is an active community that is working on Vanilla forums every day to make sure the software is up to date and is patched to any security issues on GitHub. The ability to program your own plugins like dark mode are very simple to incorporate without worrying about it breaking the site during the next upgrade! The ability to have a responsive site that looks good on any screen and emails that look nice. I for one have to 100% agree with 2+2's move to this software!

ok mat

You think Mat knows enough about the technical side of things to write a post like that?

No

I have been a frequent lurker (very occasional poster) on 2+2 for years, not even sure how long but can personally vouch for MrCaspan's skill in this area. He is relatively new to poker itself but certainly not to web programming. The site he is referring to is Canada's poker forum pokerforum.ca
which is obviously much much smaller than 2+2, has no revenue, no profit, and is hosted for nothing by my I/T partners hosting service. MrCaspan is doing our conversion for nothing but the good will. Without him we would be stuck on old dying vbulletin software.

That is not even remotely similar to my problem!

After reading this entire post I have to give the Admins a huge slow clap to not kick every single one of you form this forum... This is their forum not yours! It seems like about 90% of you suffer from the Dunning-Kruger Effect where you know about 1% on a topic and think you understand 100% of it and feel your opinion based on the 1% is correct.

The only thing I can add to this is you are all children. I have never heard so many whiners. DO you really think this is the way to get attention? How about you post in a constructive way and understand the change is happening so either get on board or leave! Complaining about the change is just a d head move. Life changes, the world changes, either get on board or get left behind.

If you have issues with the new forum please add some constructive criticism like "hey will there be a dark mode, i would really like this as a feature if its possible"

I get some of you have spent your life on here helping to build it with your comments and your efforts to support it but ITS NOT YOUR FORUM, period. Your opinion might be useful (when given constructively) but just throwing an anchor out the side of the boat to serve your own purposes is just selfish and halts progress that is need.

Its new software, it will be a change but it will not stop you from doing what you do every day which is Post a question or comment and people will reply to it and you'll get an email telling you someone replied to it.

People asking for 1440P screens stretched out... there is a reason why sites don't do this, its not natural to read a line 20" wide then try to find their place when they go back for the next line.

I have not been on this forum at all but if I had you judge a lot of you by this post it seems you are all a bit entitled because you THINK,without you this forum would not live.. trust me it will!

Sorry guys but I had to rant how bad this was... do you know how had these admins are working on improving this forum that you have zero clue about because of your 1% knowledge that you think is 100%. Seriously give them a break and maybe help them a bit....

bunch of grumpy old people with sticks up their a$$ yelling "get off my lawn!!"

Kudos to you admins for not just shutting the whole thing down with members like this on you at every turn!!