That’s the band Val Kilmer was in.

This is kind of nuts. Also, weren't microbet and jmakin like IRL friends or something? I may have extrapolated too far from my observation of their interactions in the programming thread, but it seemed like they knew each other.

Edit: I'm familiar with a fair number of names on that list but I would definitely not have been able to predict who's on which side.

Edit2: SenorKeed (as with ikestoys) is another name I would not have expected to be accepted among the UP crowd.

Val Kilmer is a vintage hero!

ikestoys and wookie are now best buddies on UP! Surprise!

To be fair, I'm mostly familiar with ikestoys because of legendary threads like this:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...oriam-1618985/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...n-ever-192500/

and can barely remember how he actually posted.

Also can't remember anything Wookie ever posted - on 2p2, my recollection of him is mostly around other people, often terrible right-wing posters, complaining about him.

Behold the community you bought max, cool purchase bro

I think it was a 5bet bluff.

Now he can barely speak!

He was amazing in Gotcha!

Recreated.

Mat closed the politics forum here, so the people who were posting in politics went somewhere else. There were never any complaints about biased modding from the left. ATF was littered with complaints from people like problemplaya preki about right-wing opinions being censored. After people had moved on (or after that process had begun, not sure the exact timeline), Mason told Mat he wanted a Politics forum, so Politics and Society opened up.

Looks like new new off-site forum start April 20th-ish 2019 and the new Politics and Society forum on 2p2 was announced around April 25

Keed is labeled a troll bc he holds some heterodox views. But he's not deplorable or right wing reactionary. He gets the libs mad bc he's earnest with his opinions.

He's gonna go to bat for free speech and anti-authoritarian type stuff that libs would prefer to enact regulations around. Ofc when the right attacks that stuff the libs agree with Keed. But if it's Biden going after it, then they differ.

Btw, was there ever any sort of actual goal for UP? It's odd to me that one would form a politics-based community without any actual political goals. Was the aim just to create a place where left-leaning people can complain about the world with other left-leaning people? Or a place where you can learn about the world, but with a left-leaning angle as to be free of those problematic, right-wing influences that can corrupt your mind?

The goal was to have a place where people could discuss politics once 2p2 shut down their politics forum

No "like" button here, but, lol. Well played.

Mostly we tired of Mason snap-banning people.

I have no idea what he claims to believe now but he posted as a right-wing populist back in the day. There was this epic thread:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...il-war-646602/

where Fly exposes the connections between the economic cranks that were constantly cited by right-wing populist posters on 2p2 and white nationalist organizations. You can look up SenorKeeed's posts there.

I lurked UP a lot early on because I thought the closing down of politics due to someone calling Sarah sanders a fat pig was insane, but it seems like the disintegration of that forum has closely mirrored the disintegration Democratic Party over the same time period, along very similar fault lines. Wasn’t one of the main original points of disagreement a number of posters’ staunch defense of their right to use the c word?

The c word kerfuffle was a proxy war

I think this tenuous at best. Can you vcie the posts? Hes proly guilty at worst of taking their arguments at face value. Bue he repeatedly asserts the South were slavery loving racists.

Also it's 12 years old.

This post is the perfect encapsulation of the issue. This guy didn't read the posts and yet is confidently asserting a viewpoint. Proud bootlicking nonreaders.

The Earth has been round forever.

There's nothing remotely tenuous about consistently repeating right-wing populist talking points and defending white nationalists and white nationalist groups on technical grounds.

Btw, from Wikipedia:

He also wasn't the only person - there was an entire cabal of posters exactly like this, who were all parroting the same talking points, which come down to, federal government bad, states rights good and all kinds of weird convoluted academic arguments as to why slavery isn't so bad if it's a free market outcome, etc. And it's a historical fact that this particular brand of right-wing populism came out of the South as the Federal Government pushed for progressive legislation as a result of the Civil Rights movement, which many Southern whites saw as an affront to their way of life and existing social order.

Sure, but my point isn't that I know what SenorKeeed believes today, but rather that I'm personally surprised that someone with his posting history is accepted over at UP.

This thread is also pretty good:

This was in light of the discovery of Ron Paul's racist newsletters and Ron Paul's numerous ties to white nationalists and white nationalist organizations.

Keed just takes whatever position or action that will cause maximum discord, and anyone that has been around him for 10+ years that doesn’t realize this is a total ****ing idiot.

I am a troll so I respect it because he’s a master of his craft but like, the people there that don’t realize it made me laugh pretty hard.