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05-02-2014 , 11:17 AM
05-02-2014 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde

This shtick must hurt any mod's image. Except if killa had it. People are being pissed off already when seeing this.
The best part about my undertitle is the fact it originated from a story about me keeping my kids in line at a restaurant and has nothing to do with modding. Just a happy accident


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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Suggestion 1 -- If a moderator is going to be extraordinarily sensitive to perceived insults, to the extent that the post "looks like I found a new place to post" will result in a ban, maybe he shouldn't be abrasive and insulting to those he is moderating.

Suggestion 2 -- Don't be so extraordinarily sensitive to perceived insults.
Senor I was just going to post about the same reply on my own, but I will instead quote your statement as it applies:

Moving forward you will see no more "thin-skinned" modding like this on my part. The fact is the insults don't really bother me, I was merely using them to assert my personal modding policy of "at least give me a modicum or respect and you will receive it back in spades".

Unfortunately, as we all saw, it instead came across as me looking like a pissy little bitch and that's just not reality nor is it how I want to be perceived. So there you go.

I can't commit to never being abrasive or insulting again though. That's just not realistic.
05-02-2014 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
The best part about my undertitle is the fact it originated from a story about me keeping my kids in line at a restaurant and has nothing to do with modding. Just a happy accident
You are a mod now, you have to live up to that. Gain respect people are giving you voluntarily, and be Solomonic. People will not know the history of yours, only what you do, and how it looks.
05-02-2014 , 11:28 AM
says the guy with 7200 infraction points
05-02-2014 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
says the guy with 7200 infraction points
They are joke ones. Maybe you want to add to them? Maybe you want more? Are you going to ban me 72 times over?
05-02-2014 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Senor I was just going to post about the same reply on my own, but I will instead quote your statement as it applies:

Moving forward you will see no more "thin-skinned" modding like this on my part. The fact is the insults don't really bother me, I was merely using them to assert my personal modding policy of "at least give me a modicum or respect and you will receive it back in spades".

Unfortunately, as we all saw, it instead came across as me looking like a pissy little bitch and that's just not reality nor is it how I want to be perceived. So there you go.

I can't commit to never being abrasive or insulting again though. That's just not realistic.
No one would care if you were insulting if you don't ban them when they respond in kind. Having an abrasive and insulting posting style can be OK, being a mod that demands civility from posters can be OK, but you can't combine the two.
05-02-2014 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
No one would care if you were insulting if you don't ban them when they respond in kind. Having an abrasive and insulting posting style can be OK, being a mod that demands civility from posters can be OK, but you can't combine the two.
Deep.

But in the end the mod is the one who has to be prepared to take more ****, and ennoble it. That's leadership.
05-02-2014 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
They are joke ones. Maybe you want to add to them? Maybe you want more? Are you going to ban me 72 times over?
05-02-2014 , 11:48 AM
Ok, to be clear, we now have -

OOTV GOT TV Only thread (no book readers allowed)
OOTV GOT Book Reader Only thread (no book readers allowed)
TL: DR GOT Book Reader Thread (book readers are allowed)

And everybody is now happy and wants hugs.

Is that about right?
05-02-2014 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Didace
OOTV GOT Book Reader Only thread (no book readers allowed)
05-02-2014 , 12:42 PM
I too believe 27offsuit was well intentioned. I believe I said this as well in the original bookreaders thread. The problem was that he just ran in there with no clue what was going on and started making rules/banning. His philosophy since the start was that if there were no people who read the books then there'd be no spoilers, so all book readers are evil. He had no clue what was going on, and didn't care to learn. Obviously he should have contacted Dids for some advice on the complex situation, and then he should have posted in both threads.

Here are the first posts of 27offsuit in the bookreader thread:

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hi guys,

i just wanted to say hi and let you know that i couldn't give less of a **** about spoilers personally, i'm a grown ass man.

i also have a big surprise for you so stay tuned, and not just the guys i quoted. disgonbegood.jpeg
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actually, you posted a spoiler yesterday, because you ****sticks still can't grasp the fact that when you confirm something was a spoiler you are in fact the spoiler.

now enjoy the ban for calling me a ******. still have bigger plans for you too, stay tuned!(via proxy obv)
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So he introduces himself to our thread by threatening everyone, then calls us **** sticks, bans someone for pointing out his error, and then gloats about it. Is it any wonder things did not stay civil?

I don't foresee this situation ever being repeated, but if it were to happen somehow, clearly he needs to be more polite, do some research, and be partial instead of just banning and making new rules without having any idea what is really going on.
05-02-2014 , 12:45 PM
still can't believe they used Bush's likeness for one of the heads.
05-02-2014 , 12:46 PM
Hai whats going on itt?

Last edited by killa; 05-02-2014 at 12:46 PM. Reason: really contact Dids? da fuq
05-02-2014 , 12:53 PM
Dids, could you please explain to me the intricacies of how you totally botched the GoT TV thread haha
05-02-2014 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Dids, could you please explain to me the intricacies of how you totally botched the GoT TV thread haha
Atleast he didn't have people going to another forum...
05-02-2014 , 01:09 PM
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05-02-2014 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
I believe 27 is well intentioned. i believe there were a number of misunderstandings that led to the hostility. so it's now time to start over.

stop fighting. if there are specific suggestions about specific threads or forums, talk. no need to be insulting in the process.
What were the good intentions or misunderstandings in the two times he has banned me in the last month? (Post describing it earlier in thread, you can also see him avoiding my questioning about it, so I have literally been banned for no reason listed in ban and the mod won't give me a reason when I ask him)
05-02-2014 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
What were the good intentions or misunderstandings in the two times he has banned me in the last month? (Post describing it earlier in thread, you can also see him avoiding my questioning about it, so I have literally been banned for no reason listed in ban and the mod won't give me a reason when I ask him)
There was one where you posted screenshots you found on the web (removing a frame that apparently contained bookreader spoiler text). You certainly deserved one for that.
05-02-2014 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Dids, could you please explain to me the intricacies of how you totally botched the GoT TV thread haha
Dids did not botch the thread but even if he did, learning from his mistakes would be a good place to start making the thread better.
05-02-2014 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
There was one where you posted screenshots you found on the web (removing a frame that apparently contained bookreader spoiler text). You certainly deserved one for that.
Thats not what I was banned for. And no I dont, seeing as I wasnt even the first person to post the screen shots. In fact there is currently post that was 2-3 posts above mine, with two screenshots I posted. I added one unique screenshot to the discussion and it was the suspected drop off point of the poison. The text I saw referred to who the next king was(which I guess isnt really a spoiler but not explicitly covered, in fact it could have just been a guess for all I know it just read like a matter of fact)

The "reason" for that ban was because I posted a spoiler box. Not at all about the content of the box.

So among 20 people posting spoiler boxes that day, with me being somewhere around the 5th, I was singled out and banned.

For further readings please click here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=107
05-02-2014 , 01:36 PM
"So following Custer's request for unbending moderation"

You got what you asked for.
05-02-2014 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
"So following Custer's request for unbending moderation"

You got what you asked for.
LOL do you know what unbending is?

If he banned everyone that posted spoilers, then you are right, that is me getting what I asked for.

Are you really this simple?

Last edited by CCuster_911; 05-02-2014 at 01:38 PM. Reason: impressive retraction you have made in one post, cant wait til the next one
05-02-2014 , 01:39 PM
Listen, the questions I am asking are rhetorical, I know why he banned me and you can easily deduce why also. I am more concerned with the follow:

a) Him recognizing it and admitting it.
b) A higher up recognizing it
05-02-2014 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Dids, could you please explain to me the intricacies of how you totally botched the GoT TV thread haha
Why does my modding from like 3 years ago (where "botched" is a completely silly suggestion, the threads went as fine as any contentious thread would have) have anything to do with your problems today?

You're not going to bail yourself out by trying to make this about me.
05-02-2014 , 01:41 PM
Custer,

see this is why you get no quarter from me at this point. you just flat out make **** up and pass it off as truth like all the ****ing time.

Make no mistake, you were banned because you first started crying when I didn't ban kirbynater or riverboatking i forget for accidentally posting in the wrong thread. you INSISTED i ban him. you literally told me i had to ban and had no choice on the matter.

But that's just the setup. You were banned banned because you then made a post that showed intricate book information in the tv thread(multiple screenshots during joff wedding) and prefaced them by saying...and I kid you ****ing not...(paraphrasing but still retrievable) "OK guys listen up. I'm going to post a bunch of screenshots that explain a lot here, b-but they had some bookreader text in them that I have gotten rid of so as to not spoil you...so because of that I am going to put them in spoilers(which are strictly forbidden) so if you don't want to look you don't have to. Your welcome!"

And then you posted frame by frame screenshots of bookreader-site generated images from the TV show. I mean seriously, how ****ing dense are you?

And right after you just insisted, dare I say demanded, that I have no leniency whatsoever ever.

      
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