Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance Here's where you put your whines and wins.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-30-2017, 11:19 PM   #1
Hold This
stranger
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 13
Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

I started playing on 888 a while ago and I've been running so bad I actually started having delusional thoughts about the site being rigged toward weaker hands.

I have been playing online poker for years now on different sites and I've never seen anything like this before. I'd just like to hear from other people just how badly you have run at some point over a somewhat significant sample.

I have played 11k hands (I know, we can debate about what constitutes a significant sample) and my EV bb/100 is 4.67 while the actual bb/100 is -9.69. I'm running 1500 bb below EV, so that's 15 buy-ins. Does this sound like your average everyday variance or am I actually experiencing what could end up being the worst run of cards of my life?

I'm playing 2NL, and typically I've been achieving something around +15 bb/100 winrates over a very large sample (100k+ hands) on the sites I've played on before. I cannot and will not deny that this most recent run of cards has also affected my play, making the actual winrate even worse than it could have been. However, that doesn't change the fact that I've been sucked out on and coolered more than ever before over and over and over again.
Hold This is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 12:11 AM   #2
24our
newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 25
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

its what happens when u make an underage account
24our is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 12:34 AM   #3
H0RUS
veteran
 
H0RUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Illuminaughty board meeting
Posts: 3,173
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

You've played online poker for years and you are still at 2nl

OP do what your screename says and hold this deck
H0RUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 05:05 AM   #4
Sheep86
veteran
 
Sheep86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: AlwaysFolding's gimmick
Posts: 3,427
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Oh look, a thread where the OP tries to make the impression that he's curious about other people's downswings, but basically just wants to cry about his own insignificant loss. How unique!

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...-last-1628545/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...-swing-962431/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...uy-ins-984085/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...tngos-1503560/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...u-get-1461646/
Sheep86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 05:59 AM   #5
Hold This
stranger
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 13
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheep86 View Post
Oh look, a thread where the OP tries to make the impression that he's curious about other people's downswings, but basically just wants to cry about his own insignificant loss. How unique!

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...-last-1628545/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...-swing-962431/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...uy-ins-984085/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...tngos-1503560/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...u-get-1461646/
Well, I disagree with your analysis but I appreciate the links to other threads.
Hold This is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 06:33 AM   #6
Morphismus
Gimperator
 
Morphismus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: in you heads
Posts: 14,983
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Morphismus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 06:42 AM   #7
Morphismus
Gimperator
 
Morphismus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: in you heads
Posts: 14,983
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Morphismus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 07:17 AM   #8
0112358132134
newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 15
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hold This View Post
I'm running 1500 bb below EV, so that's 15 buy-ins. Does this sound like your average everyday variance or am I actually experiencing what could end up being the worst run of cards of my life?
15 BI swing, the end is nigh
0112358132134 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2018, 03:05 PM   #9
SuperSwag
Pooh-Bah
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,977
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Sat next to a poker pro one time in LA. Guy ran me over, Quads over full house twice and set over set in one session. I guess that makes them pros.
SuperSwag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2018, 03:26 PM   #10
fidstar-poker
I'm gonna need a hacksaw
 
fidstar-poker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Spaining
Posts: 22,516
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Yes, online poker has been rigged for your $30.

888 owner just bought himself his 5th personal jet.
fidstar-poker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2018, 06:49 AM   #11
Colin_Piddle
Pooh-Bah
 
Colin_Piddle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: AlwaysFolding is my gimmick
Posts: 5,786
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

James McCabe gimmick account?
Colin_Piddle is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2018, 07:18 AM   #12
FranFran
 
FranFran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: hahaha
Posts: 15,726
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

everything above 3.5 buy in downswing is not normal and should be investigated.

op is on a shutter island here, remain strong and brave.
FranFran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2018, 11:19 PM   #13
Davesreiberg
journeyman
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 312
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

email pokerstars
Davesreiberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2018, 02:14 AM   #14
AllJackedUp
old hand
 
AllJackedUp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Taking 1 outers like it's my job.
Posts: 1,990
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Remember when we used to cure downswings on FTP by P2P xfer'ing $1 to PhilIvey?
AllJackedUp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2018, 02:17 AM   #15
Colin_Piddle
Pooh-Bah
 
Colin_Piddle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: AlwaysFolding is my gimmick
Posts: 5,786
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

^ I remember that sir
Colin_Piddle is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2018, 03:11 AM   #16
H0RUS
veteran
 
H0RUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Illuminaughty board meeting
Posts: 3,173
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Send op's mom $1 and your line will start pointing towards the sky again.
H0RUS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 03:56 PM   #17
Top Pig
journeyman
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 398
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Well first of all 11k hands is two, and to some just one day's play.

Second of all, shut your whining hole.

Top Pig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 03:59 PM   #18
Derp!
grinder
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 446
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Pig View Post
Well first of all 11k hands is two, and to some just one day's play.

Second of all, shut your whining hole.

JFC, that's soul crushingly sick. Is that on WPN?
Derp! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 06:15 PM   #19
Top Pig
journeyman
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 398
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Stars. This was my entire year of AIPF's.

Top Pig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 09:05 PM   #20
AllJackedUp
old hand
 
AllJackedUp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Taking 1 outers like it's my job.
Posts: 1,990
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

^^^^ fold AA when someone shoves preflop to save yourself monies?
AllJackedUp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2018, 09:08 PM   #21
AllJackedUp
old hand
 
AllJackedUp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Taking 1 outers like it's my job.
Posts: 1,990
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

wait... does that filter say tournaments?
AllJackedUp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 06:00 AM   #22
0112358132134
newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 15
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Pig View Post
Well first of all 11k hands is two, and to some just one day's play.

Second of all, shut your whining hole.

that's so sick
0112358132134 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 11:24 AM   #23
loololollo
grinder
 
loololollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Donkeyland
Posts: 585
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Quote:
Originally Posted by 0112358132134 View Post
that's so sick
I had no idea this would be possible over such a large sample, ****.
loololollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 03:50 PM   #24
cfreaks
adept
 
cfreaks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Team Shakeweight
Posts: 1,118
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

OP, while you used to be a winning 2NL player, it appears that the game has passed you by. You should probably move down and rebuild your bankroll.
cfreaks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2018, 10:20 PM   #25
Draugsvoll
centurion
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 120
Re: Your worst under EV run ever over a large sample

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hold This View Post

Typically I've been achieving something around +15 bb/100 winrates over a very large sample (100k+ hands) on the sites I've played on before.
Unless you're comparing zoom to non-zoom tables, something smells awfully fishy here. You can't crush like that while simultaneously being that butthurt over downswings.
Draugsvoll is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2017, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online