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Old 08-25-2006, 04:23 PM   #151
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Re: Why I don\'t tell people I play poker.

All of my non-poker playing friends think I have a gambling problem, even when I pay for the pizza for 15 people with poker winnings ;(

PS. I think I have a gambling problem
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:30 PM   #152
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Try being knowledgable with computers. Anyone time you step in to anyone's house...
Try being a poker playing computer guy. I can't have any conversations about what I do for 14 hours a day without wanting to kill myself. I don't have much to say.
Yep that is me. Something my wife's boss recently asked was essentially this:
Them: "Which parts from these old, broken computers should we combine to form one working computer that would be the sole location for tons of important files."

Me: "..."
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:42 PM   #153
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WOW EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD NEEDS TO CALM THE [censored] DOWN AND BE HAPPY SOMEONE CARES ENOUGH TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR JOB. CAN YOU GUYS HONESTLY SAY YOU KNEW HOW POKER WORKED BEFORE YOU GOT INTO IT EITHER?
Yeah, why does everyone think that he is the most interesting person in the world and someone who has no clue how to play would be asking so much questions about his "carier"?
Get a clue, most of the askers are just being polite.
I don't care if some guy is a programmer, engineer or a doctor, why would they?
A few that are actually interested don't know anything about poker and all they heard about is some degenerate who lost all his money on slot machines.

And yeah, most of them saw those movies where it went like " omg, i changed 3 cards and i have a full house, i bet 100000$" and his opponent has straight flush and raises him his company and his wife and if he doesn't call, he looses.

I actually enjoy talking to my friends about poker, cause i taught them all to play.
I talk about it to my family, cause i taught my dad to play and he is a very successful play money high stakes player for a year now
Even my grandmothers learned that i make money so they only encourage me to play.

At first my family was worried, that i can lose it all in one hand, like "what if you have a great hand and your opponent has the unbeatable hand and you bet all your money and lose?Or what if your opponent bets a lot of money, that you don't have, can you loan the money to call?You can lose everything.".

I explained them about all-in rules, capped buy-ins and bankroll management, so they are very supportive now after seeing that i make money.

And i played HU with my friends after teaching them, so they are interested too, asking me from time to time how it goes.
Few asked if i can teach them further sometimes.
I got bored at beating them, so i suggested that we would play for money, but only from my side, so if i lose, i pay them their 5-10$, to make it interesting.
So far i didn't lose

I made more than 5k last month, in Israel that means much more than in USA, so when people ask me how much i am making and i tell them "well, last month i earned 5k from poker" (and i have a job besides poker too), they are very impressed.

Also, a lot of tournament poker is shown on TV, i played in Israeli league which was televised on national sports channel, so poker has a more appealing look now and people realise that it's not just gambling.

So, my experiences in this field are actually positive.
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:45 PM   #154
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to mother, after she kept asking:

me: "i dunno, i think i won $450 today or something."

her: "but how much did you lose??"
Lol. This is a classic! I can't believe how many people think in terms like this. This also helped me realize why so many people say that they always win at slots. They are not thinking in terms of overall winnings, but just whether they hit even a small payout during the whole time they shoved ALL their money into the slot! In their mind, they are a winner, even though they are $300 down.

I just get so tired of the ignorance that I avoid talking to almost anyone about it.

Although, my father-in-law watched me play poker for a while. I talked about all my plays while I made them. Afterwards, he said that I was not a gambler, but a technician--I like that. I think intelligent people at least have the ability to understand if you're willing to spend the time.
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:46 PM   #155
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"I always play low cards, because alot of people don't play those cards so there are more left in the deck"
That's the best rationale for a flawed strategy I've heard, yet!

Replace "always" with "sometimes" and that guy might become a player.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:00 PM   #156
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Amazing you play trivial pursuit? WHEN AM I GOING TO SEE YOU ON JEPOARDY, LOL

Amazing, you are a plumber? I tried to fix my plumbing once with a hacksaw and rust exploded in my eye and I had to go to the hospital. Can you believe my bad luck?

Amazing, you are a tax lawyer? If I give you my tax returns, can you do them for me?

Amazing, you are a doctor? I have been getting bluish-green patches on my taint whenever I have sex with dead people...can you help me with that?
A lot of doctors I know are constantly hounded by people for medical advice or try to discuss their health problems or whatever. I think it would be a horrible job to have to talk about with clueless idiots.
Its like the exact reverse of poker, and just as inappropriate, ridiculous and embarassing. You tell someone you are in med school, they are like, "ZOMG why does my chest hurt/what does this look like to you/you make the big bucks, huh/guess yer a supergenius!" You get all sorts of (fake) undeserved respect, just like telling people you play poker for a living gets you undeserved scorn and condescension. It seems like it would be nice to get all this undeserved respect. It isnt. It makes you lose respect for the person who says it to you, and for me at least it makes me want to punch babies.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:10 PM   #157
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WOW EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD NEEDS TO CALM THE [censored] DOWN AND BE HAPPY SOMEONE CARES ENOUGH TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR JOB. CAN YOU GUYS HONESTLY SAY YOU KNEW HOW POKER WORKED BEFORE YOU GOT INTO IT EITHER?
Amazing you play trivial pursuit? WHEN AM I GOING TO SEE YOU ON JEPOARDY, LOL

Amazing, you are a plumber? I tried to fix my plumbing once with a hacksaw and rust exploded in my eye and I had to go to the hospital. Can you believe my bad luck?

Amazing, you are a tax lawyer? If I give you my tax returns, can you do them for me?

Amazing, you are a doctor? I have been getting bluish-green patches on my taint whenever I have sex with dead people...can you help me with that?
lmao! Very nice.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:14 PM   #158
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People always want to learn how to do it too or the cliche... "Hey man, what if I give you $300 of my money for you to double it, can you do that?"
LOL, its sick how often I get this.
yeah I've gotten this many many times.
Í've never had this. Is this an American thing? Can any European players say if someone asked them this?
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:16 PM   #159
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"How can you read people when you play online? You can't see their faces."

"How much have you made?"
-well about 70K in the last year
"HOLY [censored]!! But how much have you lost?"
-Huh? What do you mean? I just told you I won 70K. That means net profit
"Oh, but you don't win like every time, do you?"
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:18 PM   #160
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"How can you read people when you play online? You can't see their faces."

Delightfully hilarious.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:19 PM   #161
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Re: Why I don\'t tell people I play poker.

the first thing my current girlfriend's dad ever said to me was "so i hear you're a professional gambler". terrifying.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:23 PM   #162
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I told people at my office that I play poker. Three of them started to pay me off strange looks in the morning, whether I appeared tired or not, asking me if I "gambled" the night before, constantly inquiring as to whether or not I went bust. Most of the time I was tired because I was watching espn or masturbating, but to them, it was the "gambling" that was ruining my morning social appetite. Of these three people, two of them are funded in large part by wealthy parents. After winning nights, I have a quiet satisfaction that I'm busting my ass as an individual to make money in a "pure" form of competition while they go home, eat dinner, have bad sex, watch Tv, and sleep.

When I told them, I started to notice that they all took less interest in my opinions on things too. Seriously.

I got to hear fascinating stories about four handed home games from an office mate who repeatedly forgot to indicate blinds, position, suits, basically everything except for what he [censored] "had" and what his opponent "had." after he left work, he [censored] emailed me telling me how his buddy pushed with 76s, he knew it, he called with AK, he took this monster beat when a 7 came out. I told him that I ran up $400 in an hour playing 1/2 NL live. He never emailed me again.

My boss expressed at a luncheon that he guesses "that what I do deals with skill because I constantly have to lay down all but the best hands." This is after I told him the game is about position, opponent tendencies, and pot size for the 45th time, answering his 45th question. I was furious.

One girl asked me what I would do with her if I were playing. She was hot and flirty. I told her that I would figure out her tendencies and start manipulating bet sizes to get all her money. I still don't completely regret my answer.

When I told my friends that I play, they put on these grave faces, because what I'm doing is nowhere near as worthy as raising a family, writing, or practicing the law. Except for one friend, who plays video games obsessively. Well, he has a girlfriend too, so not so obsessively anymore.

So, in general, I basically reversed and now I don't tell a single person that I play.

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Old 08-25-2006, 05:24 PM   #163
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Try being knowledgable with computers. Anyone time you step in to anyone's house...
Yeah. I spent the last three years working at Microsoft. Strangers who want you to troubleshoot Excel for them are at least as annoying as the poker things mentioned in this thread.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:29 PM   #164
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Re: Why I don\'t tell people I play poker.

In honor of all the "How much have you won...ok, but how much have you lost" questions, I say we all start spreading our gross winnings, sans losses.
ala...
"How much did you win last month?"
"I dunno, probably about $200k"
"How much did you lose?"
"roughly 170k"



And I agree, this is a great thread.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:32 PM   #165
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One girl asked me what I would do with her if I were playing. She was hot and flirty. I told her that I would figure out her tendencies and start manipulating bet sizes to get all her money. I still don't completely regret my answer.

Even the nerdiest of nerds would make a strip poker reference here. Way to blow it.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:34 PM   #166
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when i first started playing online I actually had a really good run with horrible bankroll management and proudly told my mom that i made about 600 bucks in 3 days of playing 1/2-2/4-3/6-4/8 limit on party and she said to me
Mom: thats nice, how are you going to get the money?"
Me: well they send me a check.
Mom: so you dont have the money from it right?
Me: Well, no I have to wait on my cashout
Mom: so you STILL dont have any money? how can you play with invisible money?
Me: A"DSILHGgguokftgqk J?MA
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:34 PM   #167
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OMG EVERY GIRL THAT YOU MEET SAYS TEACH ME TEACH ME! BUT I HATE TEACHING PEOPLE STUFF I JUST THINK THEY'RE ALL STUPID BECAUSE IT TAKES EVERYONE SO LONG TO LEARN.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:38 PM   #168
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I'm amazed at the consistency of the type of things people ask.

I think alot of the "how much did you win? / how much did you lose?" questions stem from the fact people lie when it comes to gambling losses and that's pretty common knowledge.

I read a post once about some guy who saw a husband give his wife $100 to play slots. She returned some time later with $20 left. When asked how she did, she said something to the effect of "not bad, I won $20" (and of course she was -$80).

Most people are embarassed when they lose money gambling (and especially playing poker, a game of "skill" a smart person is supposed to win at) thus they always report their big wins (not factoring in the losses).

So people asking the follow up question "How much did you lose though?" are assuming poker players are doing the same thing OR they do this themselves.

Poker is still lumped in with common casino gambling in most people's minds, and confusing the matter even more so is the fact that alot of people who actually PLAY poker approach it like this (fish).
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:39 PM   #169
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My grandmomther found out I play. Whenever I see her she asks me how I've done recently. But she has a problem understanding where the money comes from. She asks me how it "got in the computer" and how do I get it back..."do you just print it or something?". Needless to say, she's not quite up-to-speed with the whole internet/computer revolution.

When I tell somebody I make money online they usually ask if I could make money in a casino since on the internet I can't see faces. I tell them it's the same game and they can't fathom it.

And to the post a few posts above...I had a co-worker (who knows I play poker) talk to me about his "buddies who gamboool a lot". He was going on and on about how they could lose $50-100 and not even care. I casually bring up how I've lost thousands in no time. He never said another word about it.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:39 PM   #170
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OMG EVERY GIRL THAT YOU MEET SAYS TEACH ME TEACH ME! BUT I HATE TEACHING PEOPLE STUFF I JUST THINK THEY'RE ALL STUPID BECAUSE IT TAKES EVERYONE SO LONG TO LEARN.
I tell girls I will teach them when they ask me this. Then they come over my house and I rape them and kill them and hide the bodies in my ****ing basement.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:41 PM   #171
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I'm amazed at the consistency of the type of things people ask.

I think alot of the "how much did you win? / how much did you lose?" questions stem from the fact people lie when it comes to gambling losses and that's pretty common knowledge.

I read a post once about some guy who saw a husband give his wife $100 to play slots. She returned some time later with $20 left. When asked how she did, she said something to the effect of "not bad, I won $20" (and of course she was -$80).

Most people are embarassed when they lose money gambling (and especially playing poker, a game of "skill" a smart person is supposed to win at) thus they always report their big wins (not factoring in the losses).

So people asking the follow up question "How much did you lose though?" are assuming poker players are doing the same thing OR they do this themselves.

Poker is still lumped in with common casino gambling in most people's minds, and confusing the matter even more so is the fact that alot of people who actually PLAY poker approach it like this (fish).
This kind of intellectual thinking dosn't belong in BBV.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:46 PM   #172
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One girl asked me what I would do with her if I were playing. She was hot and flirty. I told her that I would figure out her tendencies and start manipulating bet sizes to get all her money. I still don't completely regret my answer.
Boooooo. Start joking about wanting to get her into a game of strip poker - I mean jesus wtf are you thinking?

Edit: Looks like someone beat me to it.
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Old 08-25-2006, 05:47 PM   #173
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the first thing my current girlfriend's dad ever said to me was "so i hear you're a professional gambler". terrifying.
lol -- thats exactly why you need to tell your lady friend that its just a hobby that you, if you get lucky of course, can make some cash on the side.
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Old 08-25-2006, 06:07 PM   #174
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Re: Why I don\'t tell people I play poker.

you guys realize all these ignorant, sometimes hysterical responses are the exact reason its possible for people like us to sit in front of a computer for a couple of hours and make 100s(in my case) to thousands of dollars

even in everyday life, most people are fish and donks in the things they do
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Old 08-25-2006, 06:09 PM   #175
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The Tv thing is great. I once heard "you can't be a pro unless you are on tv" I didn't really know what to say.

and the "be careful or you will lose it all" is really annoying. Most people don't seem to understand you are not betting your whole roll at once. Whats even worse though is when you see someone and they ask about poker and say "Your luck is going to run out"
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