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Old 08-20-2007, 05:17 AM   #426
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This is my default answer to where the money comes from:

When u flip a coin u have a 50/50 chance to win/lose.
If u play for $1/flip and you flip about 100 times you'll be close to +/- 0.

All i do is searching for people who pay me $2 when i win the flip but only want $1 if they win.

9/10 people understand it.
This is a very good analogy that I'll try to keep in mind next time anybody gives me [censored].
Maybe the people I talk to are just [censored] at math, but whenever I try the simple +EV coinflip analogy, I end up with nods and then a follow-up "Ok, but still you should quit before you lose it all." Trying to explain to someone like this that your RoR is not 100% in a +EV game is pointless.
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:39 AM   #427
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:08 AM   #428
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i hate these " i hate tellin people i play poker professionally" threads. BS you LOVE telling people you play poker professionally. Its a very cool thing to be able to tell people. Theres something about being great at a card game that just makes you feel so bada**, and u know it.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:02 AM   #429
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Your a geek Steffan!

You grade 8 ya?
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:14 PM   #430
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My most frequent one so far is "So will I be seeing you on TV?" I just politely state that I only play online, so probably not.

If you guys think poker's tough, try telling people you're a competitive Scrabble player. Tournament Scrabble is about 50 times as different from living room Scrabble as serious poker is from a penny ante home game.
"Oh, I could never be good at Scrabble--I'm such a bad speller."
"That's okay. Many of the top players are Thais who don't even speak English."
"WTF?!"

QFT, and I was only a 917 before I quit. It's fun to play obscure bingos against civilians or bizarre twos they don't know and have them scramble for the OSPD. (A lot of the time we play friendly challenges.)
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:25 PM   #431
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I generally feel good about myself when I tell someone else that I play poker online, regardless of how much they think it is rigged or not. Being a winner online is definitely harder than being a winner live, and online players should be commended for that.
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:39 PM   #432
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Re: Why I don\'t tell people I play poker.

I've gone through phases where I've told people that I'm a professional player and phases where I haven't. Now I always tell the truth.

The key is that you need to say it like it is the coolest thing in the world, which it is. For the most part, people's reactions will be based on how you present yourself and how much confidence you have.

If you tell people that you play poker professionally in a quiet voice while meekly looking down to the ground, their reaction will usually not be as positive. This is especially true for girls, who can easily be manipulated. Just be super proud of yourself and tell them what you do as if you expect them to think its ridiculously cool. Also say that you are a "professional poker player" rather than someone who "plays poker for a living."

Its kind of like when you're watching a movie with people...if its a scene where all the characters are happy and smiling they will be smiling too. If its a sad scene they will have sad expressions on their faces. When you tell people what you do, just be smiling and proud and look them straight in the eye and they will have a positive reaction.

Plus, its just so much better to be honest about what you do. If someone finds out you were unwilling to tell them for whatever reason, they will look even more negatively on poker because they think you have something to hide.

Since I've realized all this stuff I've had almost all positive reactions to me saying I'm a poker player.
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:54 PM   #433
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I just ordered the 32" tv from the fpp store on stars and my mom asked me how much I had to pay for it. This was the basic conversation.

mom: how much money did that cost you?
me: (explanation of earning fpps)
mom: you obviously can't win if they take money from the pot everytime you win a hand
me: lol
mom: I hope they don't take the money out of your account for it
me: ummm...they won't thats not how it works
mom: ok, well I hope they deliver it and you didn't get ripped off
Why are we counting women as "people"?
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:48 PM   #434
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I've gotten a few interesting responses:

1)I was playing on my laptop outside once (it was a nice day out what can i say) and my neighbor came to talk to my dad who was chilling with me and my step mom drinking some beers. Anyway, he saw me playing and he's like, to my dad, "you see what your son is doing over here?" And he's like yea, whatever. My neighbor then says, next thing you know he's gonna be a porn addict and hooked on crack. We all kinda look at him (we really don't like him) and my dad says something like "that's my boy." Even though my dad dosen't understand the game he really dosen't care. I him.

2) Talking with my friend's roomate. She is trying to tell me that putting my roll into a stock that pays dividends would be the much smarter thing than just wasting money. I tell her i don't waste money, i make money, and she insists that, even if I do, putting it into pfizer with 5% dividends every 2 -3 months would be much better. I just say i'm cool and stop talking to her. LOL @ Stockaments

3)My favorite one. Roomate's friend sees me playing and says "oh cool online poker, i play online too", continuing with how he's pretty good. I ask what stakes, he says "play money". BALLIN
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:15 PM   #435
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Excellent post, Funky Llama.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:24 PM   #436
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1)I was playing on my laptop outside once (it was a nice day out what can i say) and my neighbor came to talk to my dad who was chilling with me and my step mom drinking some beers. Anyway, he saw me playing and he's like, to my dad, "you see what your son is doing over here?" And he's like yea, whatever. My neighbor then says, next thing you know he's gonna be a porn addict and hooked on crack. We all kinda look at him (we really don't like him) and my dad says something like "that's my boy." Even though my dad dosen't understand the game he really dosen't care. I him.
Your dad is awesome, and your neighbor sounds like a prick.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:27 PM   #437
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1)I was playing on my laptop outside once (it was a nice day out what can i say) and my neighbor came to talk to my dad who was chilling with me and my step mom drinking some beers. Anyway, he saw me playing and he's like, to my dad, "you see what your son is doing over here?" And he's like yea, whatever. My neighbor then says, next thing you know he's gonna be a porn addict and hooked on crack. We all kinda look at him (we really don't like him) and my dad says something like "that's my boy." Even though my dad dosen't understand the game he really dosen't care. I him.
Your dad is awesome, and your neighbor sounds like a prick.
neighbor is displaying thinly veiled jealousy
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:30 PM   #438
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but how much did you lose

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THAT QUESTION KILLS ME
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:30 PM   #439
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1)I was playing on my laptop outside once (it was a nice day out what can i say) and my neighbor came to talk to my dad who was chilling with me and my step mom drinking some beers. Anyway, he saw me playing and he's like, to my dad, "you see what your son is doing over here?" And he's like yea, whatever. My neighbor then says, next thing you know he's gonna be a porn addict and hooked on crack. We all kinda look at him (we really don't like him) and my dad says something like "that's my boy." Even though my dad dosen't understand the game he really dosen't care. I him.
Your dad is awesome, and your neighbor sounds like a prick.
Yea he has no sense of humor and we're pretty sure he has beaten his wife cause the cops came on christmas we believe for domestic violence. He probably just lost Qs to my AK playing with 20BBs, understandable
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:39 PM   #440
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but how much did you lose

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THAT QUESTION KILLS ME
"so u mean at gunpoint in a car, or, like, online?"
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Old 08-20-2007, 03:07 PM   #441
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Re: Why I don\'t tell people I play poker.

Last night my dad watched me play .25/.50 HU cash game against a nit.

I have JT on an AATTX board. I make a bet on the river, get minraised.

Dad tells me to go all in. I tell him that I am 100% sure nit has an A. He pulls 20$ out of his wallet, throws it on the table, takes the mouse from me, and clicks all in.

He had the A, and my dad payed me to go all in
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Old 08-20-2007, 03:12 PM   #442
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but how much did you lose

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THAT QUESTION KILLS ME
do you show them THE graph when they ask?
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:35 PM   #443
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Last night my dad watched me play .25/.50 HU cash game against a nit.

I have JT on an AATTX board. I make a bet on the river, get minraised.

Dad tells me to go all in. I tell him that I am 100% sure nit has an A. He pulls 20$ out of his wallet, throws it on the table, takes the mouse from me, and clicks all in.

He had the A, and my dad payed me to go all in
hahaha your dad is awesome
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:55 PM   #444
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Talking about poker is ultra boring even with someone who is knowledgeable about the subject.

That's what I try and tell people. Just had to finally admit to being an online pro since I'm now touring the world constantly, brag, and every night I meet some girl I'm dating's friends, or friends of friends that find out I'm in town for a week, the poker thing comes up.

The best way to shut them up when they ask 'how much have you won, is to ask how much they make a year?' I do it nicely, I just try and let them know it's just my job and it's boring to discuss.
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:16 PM   #445
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but how much did you lose

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THAT QUESTION KILLS ME
Except in your case its a really good question.
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:42 PM   #446
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"pokers all luck"

"then how are there such things as poker pros?

"they are good at bluffing
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:17 PM   #447
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Last night my dad watched me play .25/.50 HU cash game against a nit.

I have JT on an AATTX board. I make a bet on the river, get minraised.

Dad tells me to go all in. I tell him that I am 100% sure nit has an A. He pulls 20$ out of his wallet, throws it on the table, takes the mouse from me, and clicks all in.

He had the A, and my dad payed me to go all in
LOL
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:19 PM   #448
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Last night my dad watched me play .25/.50 HU cash game against a nit.

I have JT on an AATTX board. I make a bet on the river, get minraised.

Dad tells me to go all in. I tell him that I am 100% sure nit has an A. He pulls 20$ out of his wallet, throws it on the table, takes the mouse from me, and clicks all in.

He had the A, and my dad payed me to go all in
LOL

that's awesome.

My dad watched me play once...he was impressed that I was able to call out people's cards fairly often (NL100 on party)

He said though, "I guess you play it so often you better be good at it, otherwise I had a ****** for a son" LOLOLOL

My dad is awesome.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:45 PM   #449
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Bad beat stories stink..no one wants to hear them. Every poker player has them. Keep them to yourself.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:50 PM   #450
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my dad thinks it is awesome and brags to his friends about it, but however bad it is to tell people what your job is, being in highschool and telling people you play online poker is worse. people auto-equate highschool+gambling=degen. that and the fact that it seems when i do accidently bring it up with people who aren't close friends there happens to be one person whose friend/cousin/uncle went busto and tells me how banning online poker is a good thing.
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