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Old 04-26-2011, 09:21 PM   #2951
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I'm pretty amazed at so many posts in this thread.

It appears obvious that over 95% of the posters here are microstakes grinders.
Anybody discussing how their parents/girlfriend don't understand what they do during their free time just don't get it. Yeah, it's only natural for ignorant people to wonder why you spend hours playing in front of a computer. They just can't SEE why you're doing it, because there is NOTHING to see. You just don't make any money playing microstakes. You know it, they know it, yet you try and argue with them how poker is a game of skill.
Ridiculous.

If any of you microstakes grinders (omg my mom told me to cash it out before i lose it all LOLOLOL !) made any decent amount of money playing poker, then your family would understand WHY you're doing it. You guys DO look like degen spending 6hrs a day playing poker and not making any money off of it. Be realistic.

I can assure you that all higher stakes players making good money at poker have NO PROBLEM dealing with their family. Your income is often bigger than theirs, they get to see everything you buy for yourself and how poker helps you have a much better lifestyle. They realize you just don't need their financial support anymore. What can they say ?

It's important to not associate microstakes grinders, who only play poker for a few bucks, and "real" poker players who can actually make a living off poker. That's two very different worlds. Be realistic about your situation. Don't act like you're great poker players because you know a lot more than a random guy. If you don't have any numbers to back it up, there's just no point getting into an argument. People need proofs. If you don't give them one, they'll always think you're a jerk (and once again, it's only NATURAL for them to think so)

When you DO make money out of poker, the only tricky question your friends have is "wow, you're always spending so much money on whatever you want, how can you afford that?"
The answers to that question are numerous, and it's very easy to get away with it if you don't wanna go into the poker discussion.

Answering any question about how much you make at poker is ridiculous. Tell them you make thousands, they're just not gonna believe you. Tell them you make a few hundreds, they're gonna think it's not gonna last, at best.
You can only discuss that with your closer friends, when they can SEE for themselves what kinda lifestyle you have.

Microstakes grinders, keep in mind the game you're playing will never get you anywhere in life. You should just consider it a hobby, a past time that SOMETIMES makes you some money. As such, don't ever consider talking about it to people as if it were any different. Keep it simple, and you'll be fine.
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Old 05-17-2011, 06:13 PM   #2952
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lollollol, some very funny stories ITT
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Old 05-18-2011, 02:10 PM   #2953
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Visiting family in NY that I haven't seen since I started playing full time. My occupation came up over drinks before dinner.

They all went into a ruckus discussing how they wish they were better at 'poker'. Then they were asking me how I know when to double down or split. Facepalm. I pretty much avoided the conversation so that I wouldn't have to explain what is and is NOT poker.

Just goes to show that most people associate all forms of gambling into one category.

Next time I might tell them im a professional craps player. Then they might ask me some poker questions on accident.
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:15 PM   #2954
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:23 PM   #2955
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Because I don't play poker anymore, ldo.
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:47 PM   #2956
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I was at a bar last night with a couple friends and we ended up talking about poker because it was on one of the tv's.

It was very unfortunate because we ended up getting into a very heated argument and a lot of mean things were said.

Everyone kept saying how stupid poker is and how its 100% luck, and I always keep my mouth shut until I finally couldn't take it anymore and started explaining how its a skill game with a small luck factor.

Basically the discussion escalated into an argument and more people joined in and we started yelling.

I'm 24 and most of my friends just finished college and stuff last year. EVERY SINGLE ONE of my friends is broke. They ALL live with their parents and I am the only one with an apartment. They all have minimum wage job that suck. I haven't had a job in 2 years and I drive a Lexus. How they **** do you think I can afford to have my own apartment, drive a Lexus, go on vacation 4 times a year without having a job! Seriously???

So basically they all think I'm a degenerate gambler idiot who blows all his money playing poker which was really mean. And I told them I made more money in the last month then all 4 of them put together have made in the last 2 months, and that was also really mean.
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:59 PM   #2957
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Old 08-14-2011, 04:20 PM   #2958
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My close friends know I play poker a lot so whenever we watch tv and there is poker on tv they wanna watch and they start asking questions all the time lol. It is a little annoying and they don't understand why I don't like watching poker on tv. But they are very cool so I don't mind going through a 1h footage of the WSOP with them lol.

Brag : I usually don't talk about the fact that I play poker cause I don't want people to say it's stupid etc. Yesterday at a party a really nice girl asked me if I still played poker (I didn't know she knew that lol) and understood that there was skills involved and that one could make money on the long run playing this game. I'm in love.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:02 PM   #2959
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I was at a bar last night with a couple friends and we ended up talking about poker because it was on one of the tv's.

It was very unfortunate because we ended up getting into a very heated argument and a lot of mean things were said.

Everyone kept saying how stupid poker is and how its 100% luck, and I always keep my mouth shut until I finally couldn't take it anymore and started explaining how its a skill game with a small luck factor.

Basically the discussion escalated into an argument and more people joined in and we started yelling.

I'm 24 and most of my friends just finished college and stuff last year. EVERY SINGLE ONE of my friends is broke. They ALL live with their parents and I am the only one with an apartment. They all have minimum wage job that suck. I haven't had a job in 2 years and I drive a Lexus. How they **** do you think I can afford to have my own apartment, drive a Lexus, go on vacation 4 times a year without having a job! Seriously???

So basically they all think I'm a degenerate gambler idiot who blows all his money playing poker which was really mean. And I told them I made more money in the last month then all 4 of them put together have made in the last 2 months, and that was also really mean.
I've had to practice keeping my mouth shut as well and it's really frustrating. I've tried numerous numerous times and haven't really gotten anywhere. They don't want to hear the math, they don't want to hear logic, and it infuriates me when they think I'M the one in denial that poker is a game of luck.
I don't argue anymore. I just let them rant until they are blue in the face and tell them that they are right, but that I'll keep playing my game of luck because it makes me money consistently.
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Old 08-14-2011, 05:31 PM   #2960
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My close friends know I play poker a lot so whenever we watch tv and there is poker on tv they wanna watch and they start asking questions all the time lol. It is a little annoying and they don't understand why I don't like watching poker on tv. But they are very cool so I don't mind going through a 1h footage of the WSOP with them lol.

Brag : I usually don't talk about the fact that I play poker cause I don't want people to say it's stupid etc. Yesterday at a party a really nice girl asked me if I still played poker (I didn't know she knew that lol) and understood that there was skills involved and that one could make money on the long run playing this game. I'm in love.
How sick is that, yesterday I was at a party aswell and exactly the same happend to me. I already liked her before she understood poker was skill tho, now I am even more in love hahaha. Anyways, I was quite paranoid in the beginning telling her how it worked, didn't want to get weird looks, but she was really interested I could tell and she understood so yeah.. good time
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Old 08-14-2011, 08:48 PM   #2961
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Hmm, Just throwing it out there. You guys are probably lightweights and after a couple of beers thought that the other one was a girl and now you have reconnected once again through 2+2?
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Old 08-15-2011, 03:48 AM   #2962
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Poker is a sport in which you are competing with others for money. You are not exactly producing a tangible or usable good. That is why people will never respect you the same way they would respect a doctor or an engineer. You would have to be REALLY good at it (and your opponents really bad and loaded in general) to make a decent steady living.

Afterall, you need to have a cushion for variance and pay your living expenses too, not to mention the rake. The money has to come from somewhere. If you made $50K in a year after rake, someone had to lose $100K. And for someone to lose enough to pay a good player's living + rake + Poker related expenses, they'd have to be really stupid, loaded or both, right?

That is why people frown upon Poker players.

Also, in order for people to respect your "job" in which you are not producing anything, you have to be good at a very high level. Like athletes for example. If you hustled at Pool or foosball at your local bar, you'd be a scumbag. But if you competed in major arenas in a sport making millions, you'd be a Hero.

If you loan sharked degenerate gamblers for a fixed high interest, you'd be a criminal and a scumbag. But if you literally stole billions of dollars in hidden fees and interests earned on other people's moneies, you'd be one of the most respected entities in the nation.
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Old 08-15-2011, 08:25 AM   #2963
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Poker is a sport in which you are competing with others for money. You are not exactly producing a tangible or usable good. That is why people will never respect you the same way they would respect a doctor or an engineer. You would have to be REALLY good at it (and your opponents really bad and loaded in general) to make a decent steady living.

Afterall, you need to have a cushion for variance and pay your living expenses too, not to mention the rake. The money has to come from somewhere. If you made $50K in a year after rake, someone had to lose $100K. And for someone to lose enough to pay a good player's living + rake + Poker related expenses, they'd have to be really stupid, loaded or both, right?

That is why people frown upon Poker players.

Also, in order for people to respect your "job" in which you are not producing anything, you have to be good at a very high level. Like athletes for example. If you hustled at Pool or foosball at your local bar, you'd be a scumbag. But if you competed in major arenas in a sport making millions, you'd be a Hero.

If you loan sharked degenerate gamblers for a fixed high interest, you'd be a criminal and a scumbag. But if you literally stole billions of dollars in hidden fees and interests earned on other people's moneies, you'd be one of the most respected entities in the nation.
More sad wankery from the sad wanker.
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Old 08-15-2011, 08:29 AM   #2964
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Poker is a sport in which you are competing with others for money. You are not exactly producing a tangible or usable good. That is why people will never respect you the same way they would respect a doctor or an engineer. You would have to be REALLY good at it (and your opponents really bad and loaded in general) to make a decent steady living.

Afterall, you need to have a cushion for variance and pay your living expenses too, not to mention the rake. The money has to come from somewhere. If you made $50K in a year after rake, someone had to lose $100K. And for someone to lose enough to pay a good player's living + rake + Poker related expenses, they'd have to be really stupid, loaded or both, right?

That is why people frown upon Poker players.

Also, in order for people to respect your "job" in which you are not producing anything, you have to be good at a very high level. Like athletes for example. If you hustled at Pool or foosball at your local bar, you'd be a scumbag. But if you competed in major arenas in a sport making millions, you'd be a Hero.

If you loan sharked degenerate gamblers for a fixed high interest, you'd be a criminal and a scumbag. But if you literally stole billions of dollars in hidden fees and interests earned on other people's moneies, you'd be one of the most respected entities in the nation.
Sooo much fail in such small space of writing. How do you do it, my little wanker?
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Old 08-15-2011, 10:05 AM   #2965
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Sooo much fail in such small space of writing. How do you do it, my little wanker?
You like to repeat yourself don't you?

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Hi Tit,

I just wanted to ask a quick question about you.

From your posts, we can see that you able to fail in such epic proportions in such a small space of writing.

But how? I mean, do you practise? If so, how much?

I don't know if you are aware of your talent, but I think one day you will become a great leader and go on to do great things with your ridiculous amount of stupidity and ******edness.

Hope to hear from you soon.

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Old 08-15-2011, 11:24 AM   #2966
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Its how you tell it. Not talking about the things you love because some girl will look uninterested is pussy-behavior. Relate poker with the psychological aspect of it how its fascinates you and how that got you into poker. I can tell that many people, men and women, are interested in behavior and psychology. Relate, relate, relate and all will be good. And speak with passion about it. I guarentee that the look on the girls faces will be beyond positivity.

Random note: Be creative.
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Old 08-15-2011, 11:27 AM   #2967
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Its how you tell it. Not talking about the things you love because some girl will look uninterested is pussy-behavior. Relate poker with the psychological aspect of it how its fascinates you and how that got you into poker. I can tell that many people, men and women, are interested in behavior and psychology. Relate, relate, relate and all will be good. And speak with passion about it. I guarentee that the look on the girls faces will be beyond positivity.

Random note: Be creative.
Has this ever worked in the history of forever?

Perhaps girls are different where you live.
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:04 PM   #2968
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Pretty sure it works on women all over the world.
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:07 PM   #2969
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Pretty sure it works on women all over the world.
Not in English pubs, I'd imagine.

"Er, are you heterosexual?"
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:10 PM   #2970
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my friends know i play but i never bring up how its going or whatever cause there will inevitably be questions like OMG TEACH ME O WISE ONE etc.. i like to discuss poker..but with people who already know poker and i can maybe learn something. i'm not qualified to teach anyone anything other than some super donks, but why bother.
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Old 08-15-2011, 02:56 PM   #2971
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Actually the last girl I went out with was perfectly okay with it, heck she even admired it. People make money using their brains in the stock market and trading. Poker is the same thing. But not every girl think like that.

The ratio of people that admire Poker as a game of skill vs the people that think Poker as a degenerate addiction is:

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Old 08-15-2011, 07:33 PM   #2972
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yeah no one has ever had a problem with me playing poker and most people find it pretty interesting if you are profiting
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Poker is a sport in which you are competing with others for money. You are not exactly producing a tangible or usable good. That is why people will never respect you the same way they would respect a doctor or an engineer. You would have to be REALLY good at it (and your opponents really bad and loaded in general) to make a decent steady living.
Afterall, you need to have a cushion for variance and pay your living expenses too, not to mention the rake. The money has to come from somewhere. If you made $50K in a year after rake, someone had to lose $100K. And for someone to lose enough to pay a good player's living + rake + Poker related expenses, they'd have to be really stupid, loaded or both, right?

That is why people frown upon Poker players.

Also, in order for people to respect your "job" in which you are not producing anything, you have to be good at a very high level. If you hustled at Pool or foosball at your local bar, you'd be a scumbag. But if you competed in major arenas in a sport making millions, you'd be a Hero.

If you loan sharked degenerate gamblers for a fixed high interest, you'd be a criminal and a scumbag. But if you literally stole billions of dollars in hidden fees and interests earned on other people's moneies, you'd be one of the most respected entities in the nation.
But that's true of anything. You have to be really good at baseball to make the majors, and you have to be really good at music to get a slot in a major symphony.

What you say about poker players (that most aren't good enough to make a living at it) is just as true of, for example, lawyers.

To make a living as a lawyer, you have a much better chance if you get into a good college, which means you have to do well in high school. When you get to college, you have to get your undergraduate degree. Then you have to pass the LSAT. Then you have to be accepted to law school, preferably one that is highly ranked. You have to graduate from law school, but the higher your class standing, the better chance you have to get a decent job.

So in a way, becoming a lawyer is like becoming a pro who can support yourself with poker. Jane really wants to be a lawyer, but she might not have good enough grades in high school, or college. She might not pass the LSAT.

Jane might make it into law school, but after a year, decide that it's not what she wants to do. Or she might graduate from law school, but with a low class rank that holds her back from getting that big job in New York. Instead of the lucrative job at a big law firm, she ends up as a public defender in a city of 30,000 people.

So, Jane could get tripped up at any level. Just like a tournament poker player might crush $1 online MTTs, then $5, come out a little ahead at $10, but not be good enough to play any higher.

Yes, poker is like anything else. The top 5 or 10% are the ones that are going to make the real money. But that's true for CEOs, athletes, and almost any other profession. The ones with the most talent and the ones that work the hardest will rise to the top. That shouldn't be news to anyone.

The only question is, do you have what it takes? Try these questions:

Are you naturally good at games, or math?

Do you manage your money well in general?

Do you understand proper bankroll management in poker, and can you stick to it?

Do you take your study time as seriously as your playing time?

Will you play for 10 hours when you have a juicy cash table?

Are you willing to put in some 60-hour weeks when online poker comes back to the US and starts the next poker boom?

Are you willing to work on every facet of the game (math, tells, changing gears, memorization, telling a story, etc.)?

If your answer to most of the above questions is no, you'll never make a living playing poker. If the answer to most of the above questions is yes, you might have a shot.
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But that's true of anything. You have to be really good at baseball to make the majors, and you have to be really good at music to get a slot in a major symphony.

What you say about poker players (that most aren't good enough to make a living at it) is just as true of, for example, lawyers.

To make a living as a lawyer, you have a much better chance if you get into a good college, which means you have to do well in high school. When you get to college, you have to get your undergraduate degree. Then you have to pass the LSAT. Then you have to be accepted to law school, preferably one that is highly ranked. You have to graduate from law school, but the higher your class standing, the better chance you have to get a decent job.

So in a way, becoming a lawyer is like becoming a pro who can support yourself with poker. Jane really wants to be a lawyer, but she might not have good enough grades in high school, or college. She might not pass the LSAT.

Jane might make it into law school, but after a year, decide that it's not what she wants to do. Or she might graduate from law school, but with a low class rank that holds her back from getting that big job in New York. Instead of the lucrative job at a big law firm, she ends up as a public defender in a city of 30,000 people.

So, Jane could get tripped up at any level. Just like a tournament poker player might crush $1 online MTTs, then $5, come out a little ahead at $10, but not be good enough to play any higher.

Yes, poker is like anything else. The top 5 or 10% are the ones that are going to make the real money. But that's true for CEOs, athletes, and almost any other profession. The ones with the most talent and the ones that work the hardest will rise to the top. That shouldn't be news to anyone.

The only question is, do you have what it takes? Try these questions:

Are you naturally good at games, or math?

Do you manage your money well in general?

Do you understand proper bankroll management in poker, and can you stick to it?

Do you take your study time as seriously as your playing time?

Will you play for 10 hours when you have a juicy cash table?

Are you willing to put in some 60-hour weeks when online poker comes back to the US and starts the next poker boom?

Are you willing to work on every facet of the game (math, tells, changing gears, memorization, telling a story, etc.)?

If your answer to most of the above questions is no, you'll never make a living playing poker. If the answer to most of the above questions is yes, you might have a shot.
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jesus 5 ****in years and this thread is still strong.
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