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01-14-2010 , 02:02 PM

#101

ac on

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Originally Posted by vanallin

Well said. However, I did watch a lot of videos and read a lot of posts on here. I found it difficult to apply that knowledge in novel situations.

Post hand histories when you're in these trouble spots and ask people what you should have done.

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01-14-2010 , 02:18 PM

#102

cryptowilly

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Could you easily afford whatever you've lost?

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01-14-2010 , 02:19 PM

#103

tskarzyn

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thanks for sharing op. i'm a losing player online as well and have similar tilt/b.roll issues that don't seem to come into play nearly as much in live poker. you mentioned that you used to crush .10/.25 home games with friends, why not find regular home games around where you live? it's much harder to drop a few BI live at a home game b/c of the embarrassment factor and the inability to chase losses at higher stakes.

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01-14-2010 , 03:25 PM

#104

Flintoff

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Do you think we are all stupid enough not to realise that you are doing this in the hope of an offer of free coaching?

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01-14-2010 , 03:41 PM

#105

Chillypill

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one idea for you OP:

1.Go back to grinding NL25 like you did when you were winning player.
2.Get a rakebackdeal
3.Use macro's and start 24tabling
4.Profit

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01-14-2010 , 04:42 PM

#106

Chuppa

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Can you write a book?

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01-14-2010 , 05:36 PM

#107

OverplaysBigSlick

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Did you graduate highschool?

Do you do drugs?

A lot of drugs?

Imo you gotta keep trying no matter what someday you're sure to be a winning player.

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01-14-2010 , 05:41 PM

#108

vanallin

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Originally Posted by DarkWizard

How often were u broke?

Probably about 20 times.

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01-14-2010 , 05:43 PM

#109

vanallin

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Originally Posted by SoLost

If you found out you could start winning at $5 an hour if you put in 5 hours of work a week, would you keep playing?

No, unless I was having a great time which is unlikely.

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01-14-2010 , 05:46 PM

#110

vanallin

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Originally Posted by davek300

If you could, and assuming that your net income be unchanged, would you quit your job to be a full time poker player?

Probably not because I enjoy my job. I guess it depends on how many hours I would have to grind a week.

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01-14-2010 , 05:53 PM

#111

vanallin

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Originally Posted by riverfish1

are there any secrets to preventing players from sitting down with half a BI, and then insta-leaving if they manage to double up? Anything I can say/do to keep them playing me?

I feel qualified to answer this as I have done this. When I do this I am underolled playing scared money. This can obviously be exploited as I am sure you are aware of strategies to play against scared money. Of course, if I'm buying in for $33.27 and playing super agro you know what that means. You just have to be patient and let me give you what's left of my roll.

If I double up against you, maybe just say "give me 15 more minutes please" or something like that."

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01-14-2010 , 05:57 PM

#112

vanallin

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Originally Posted by fxstone11

you seem to have a deep understanding of why you're a loser at playing poker, yet apparently you're doing nothing to overcome these problems.

I don't believe that is true. I know exactly what to do to not tilt when I begin a session. The problem is making the right decision DURING tilt. Very difficult IMO.

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01-14-2010 , 05:59 PM

#113

vanallin

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Originally Posted by cryptowilly

Could you easily afford whatever you've lost?

Yes, the money has not impacted me at all. However, I think the stress has.

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01-14-2010 , 06:02 PM

#114

vanallin

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Originally Posted by tskarzyn

That is good advice. Thank you. However, I enjoy HU and Omaha and it's hard to find these in home games.

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01-14-2010 , 06:02 PM

#115

riverfish1

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do you tend to be more aggro or more of a station when tilting? Or does it depend? If it depends, what are the variables that cause each?

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01-14-2010 , 06:07 PM

#116

vanallin

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Originally Posted by Flintoff

Do you think we are all stupid enough not to realise that you are doing this in the hope of an offer of free coaching?

Lol. I'm sure getting a coach would help me. However, the purpose of this thread was not to ask for help on how to get better. There are plenty of resources already available for that.

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01-14-2010 , 06:09 PM

#117

vanallin

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Originally Posted by Chillypill

one idea for you OP:

1.Go back to grinding NL25 like you did when you were winning player.
2.Get a rakebackdeal
3.Use macro's and start 24tabling
4.Profit

Thanks, but the reason I enjoyed HU was because I actually enjoyed player poker. Not autopiloting. I enjoyed the multiple levels of thought and complexity. I tried multitabling and it just wasn't interesting to me.

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01-14-2010 , 06:11 PM

#118

vanallin

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Originally Posted by OverplaysBigSlick

Did you graduate highschool?

Do you do drugs?

A lot of drugs?

Imo you gotta keep trying no matter what someday you're sure to be a winning player.

Yes, I graduated highschool. No drugs.

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01-14-2010 , 06:15 PM

#119

vanallin

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Originally Posted by riverfish1

do you tend to be more aggro or more of a station when tilting? Or does it depend? If it depends, what are the variables that cause each?

First of all, I define tilt as Tommy Angelo does: any game that deviates from your A game. So, rarely am I in complete meltdown tilt. However, I am chasing losses playing way to high. Thus, I'm probably more a station playing scared money. I will 3-bet a lot pre (HU) but will not 4 bet unless I have the goods.

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01-15-2010 , 12:32 PM

#120

TBadr

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Originally Posted by vanallin

The problem is making the right decision DURING tilt. Very difficult IMO.

ummm how about STOP playing.
When your emotions takes over your rationale...Just stop!!

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01-15-2010 , 12:41 PM

#121

riverfish1

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people realize that this is a well, not a "pretend you're actually a winning player and tell the losing player how to play" right?

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01-15-2010 , 12:45 PM

#122

ab160

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Voted this thread 5 stars, finding these responses very interesting.

Would you be more likely to continue playing someone heads up, even if you thought they had an edge, if they were:
-nice to you and friendly or
-seemed like a douche so you wanted to take their momey?

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01-15-2010 , 12:47 PM

#123

andreyit

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looool epic. How could someone make this thread??

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01-15-2010 , 12:58 PM

#124

timistere

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A+ thread imo

gl to you op

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01-15-2010 , 03:24 PM

#125

mdom88

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How do you decide which reg to sit with HU? Randomly pick one, pick the top table, pick somebody who isn't sitting full stacked, someone with a funny name, etc.?? do you search out regs that are on the more lag/maniacal side for a funner game?

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