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Old 07-28-2006, 08:23 PM   #201
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Re: Veganmav eats his food out of the trash: discuss

I've got two suggesstions.

1. Buy a farm and grow your own food instead of taking it from the trash. Your footprint will be larger but you can always cancel that out by buying a new car for someone with an old polluter or buying a solar power system for someone. It will cost more, but you won't be eatin out of the trash. edit: I guess you're not thinking about just pollution and energy, but I'm sure you can think of something to cancel out whatever bothers you.

2. Open a fancy restaurant where all the food comes from trash.

Of course maybe you're just joking about all of this.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:27 PM   #202
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Open a fancy restaurant where all the food comes from trash.
I could actually see this idea being a gold mine in NY.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:27 PM   #203
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Re: Veganmav eats his food out of the trash: discuss

vegan,

You don't have actual biological brothers of yours that are starving, do you?
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:40 PM   #204
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People that think I'm a horrible human,

What's up with that?
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:42 PM   #205
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Re: Veganmav eats his food out of the trash: discuss

I never said you were horrible, nor do I think that. Most your OOT posts are solid and/or amusing. I just thought you came off like a real ass here.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:44 PM   #206
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ok so u have good money. u feel bad for the world. so u sit on that money and not give it to ur 'brothers'?


i feel bad for u
as I said above, I am already giving a lot of my money away, to my family and friends in Mexico. I am also trying to make the +EV play of keeping a bankroll so i can move up stakes so I can help more people, while at the same time satisfying my conscience by giving what I can for now. FWIW I have probably given over 20% of my poker winnings to others and spent less than 5% on myself, and saved almost all the rest.
Wow, yea you are really preventing suffering by hording dollars instead of feeding your brothers. What a joke.
Are you [censored] ******ed and illiterate??

Does your general attitude towards those that are many times over a better person then you have anything to do with the fact that you are no longer a mod? Wouldnt suprise me in the least.

Get a [censored] life.
mntbikr15, you have hit the nail on its proverbial head. I am so distrought over voluntarily quitting as a mod that I felt the need to lash out on people that eat garbage?

Are you serious? Don't get all upset because I disagreed with this guy. Even he was okay with it.

I am not illiterate. I am also not ******ed. Do you really think I am? Why did you ask? You're acting like a bigger fool tahn veganmav.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:45 PM   #207
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I never said you were horrible, nor do I think that. Most your OOT posts are solid and/or amusing. I just thought you came off like a real ass here.
Because I disagreed with someone that eats out of the trash as an effective way to help people and obviously has no understanding of the basic economics that he seems to be basig most of his life on? If you think that makes me an ass then I'll do you the favor of telling you you don't like me much.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:49 PM   #208
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Re: Veganmav eats his food out of the trash: discuss

Great thread. At first I thought wtf is this guy doing, but after you explained yourself a bit better I grew respect for you. Allthough I still think dumpster eating is weird Living by your ideals takes courage.

GL with your plans.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:53 PM   #209
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side note to all these posts.

I grew up the poorest of the poor.
When we ate out of the trash because we had to.
one time when I was 13, and not quite so poor but still poor, my uncle in mexico came to me crying, asking me if i could give him 20 thousand pesos (i think)(which was like 6 dollars at the time i think) so that He could have food for the week. I knew he didnt have enough money to eat regularly, and I obviously gave him what I had.

It's things like those that haunt me someitmes.
When I win 10k playing poker, I am sad that I live in such a world where lots of us make so much money playing poker, and waste it on other things like fancy cars, or neclaces, or watches, when our brothers and sisters don't have enough food to eat, just to stay alive.

I don't think that I could buy any of the stuff in this thread where people brag about their luxuries. I think that I couldn't live with myself if I bought some of those thngs. Yes it is nice to have stuff, and we shouldn't short ourselves. I still have a car, a place to stay, I play soccer, and I bought soccer shoes, I sometimes buy some small luxuries like vegan ice cream, or a good book, but as long as others are still dying because they dont even have enough food to eat, I think that we should limit our luxuries.

That is the kinda the point of me responding to all these posts, and being vegan, and eating out of trash, and talking about this.

It's just, let's please not waste so much, let's please not spend so much, let's try to limit our luxuries, and if you aren't willing to do these things, can you at least not make fun of someone who is trying their best to do these things?
thanks.

i am not gay.


Do you have any health concerns when eating out of trash cans?

Did you just "take up" freegansim or did it just come about naturally based on your experiences? Also at what time in your life did you quit eating meat?\

This is one of the more interesting threads I have read on 2+2 in awhile.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:57 PM   #210
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when on a first date, do you let the lady have first pick?
i have been there more than once, and no. we do fair, 50/50
Woah Woah Woah.....FIRST date...and you do this?

How do you begin to bring this up.

"And now for a meal we have a lovely....dumpster"
no.
if you think about it
my first date with a girl is likely to be with someone who is also into this kind of thing. i have done it twice
Do you typically use the girl's armpit hair to floss after your garbage meal?
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:10 PM   #211
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Veganmav, do you wire half of your poker winnings to Mexico?
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:15 PM   #212
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I never said you were horrible, nor do I think that. Most your OOT posts are solid and/or amusing. I just thought you came off like a real ass here.
Because I disagreed with someone that eats out of the trash as an effective way to help people and obviously has no understanding of the basic economics that he seems to be basig most of his life on? If you think that makes me an ass then I'll do you the favor of telling you you don't like me much.
No, that's not why. I don't agree with it either. It's more in how you disagreed. You were pretty condescending. And what's up with the last sentence there? Why not let me answer before deciding for me whether I'd like you or not?
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:49 PM   #213
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ok so u have good money. u feel bad for the world. so u sit on that money and not give it to ur 'brothers'?


i feel bad for u
as I said above, I am already giving a lot of my money away, to my family and friends in Mexico. I am also trying to make the +EV play of keeping a bankroll so i can move up stakes so I can help more people, while at the same time satisfying my conscience by giving what I can for now. FWIW I have probably given over 20% of my poker winnings to others and spent less than 5% on myself, and saved almost all the rest.
Wow, yea you are really preventing suffering by hording dollars instead of feeding your brothers. What a joke.
Are you [censored] ******ed and illiterate??

Does your general attitude towards those that are many times over a better person then you have anything to do with the fact that you are no longer a mod? Wouldnt suprise me in the least.

Get a [censored] life.
mntbikr15, you have hit the nail on its proverbial head. I am so distrought over voluntarily quitting as a mod that I felt the need to lash out on people that eat garbage?

Are you serious? Don't get all upset because I disagreed with this guy. Even he was okay with it.

I am not illiterate. I am also not ******ed. Do you really think I am? Why did you ask? You're acting like a bigger fool tahn veganmav.
I had no idea why you are no longer a mod but if you used the same tone then as you did here(for no reason) then it would have been more then appropriate to revoke it.

I have no prob if you want to disagree with him. But do it with a little more taste and class....jeez
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:03 PM   #214
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Veganmav, do you wire half of your poker winnings to Mexico?
This is a bad, and common, kind of argument. When someone does something that they think is good it is not hypocritical if they don't do other things that are good.

Are you absolutely consistent in everything you do by being 100% selfish all the time? If not, why aren't you in India tending the sores of lepers?
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:10 PM   #215
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I had no idea why you are no longer a mod but if you used the same tone then as you did here(for no reason) then it would have been more then appropriate to revoke it.
Dude why are you talking about mods? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and it's not even the least bit relevant.

Can you get the sand out of your vag and stop acting like I said anything unreasonable. Veganmav is a grown up, he doesn't need me to coddle him like a child.
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:15 PM   #216
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I LOVE TRASH
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Old 07-28-2006, 11:51 PM   #217
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Veganmav eats his food out of the trash
Posting almost blind:
It doesnt make any diference.
To any other than him and the people close around him.



(dont ignore my comment just bacause I cant spell...)
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Old 07-29-2006, 12:08 AM   #218
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Brendan Brazier triathlete is also vegna and has a website
Heh, vegna.
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Old 07-29-2006, 12:52 AM   #219
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I used to work at a pharmacy back in the 80's that threw away alot of medication. They ended up stopping that and instead joined a program that sent expired medicine to third world countries. It was perfectly fine to use.

Would have been a goldmine for the druggie freegan's.

I would grab vegetables for my pet rabbit from some of the other dumpsters, while dumping the meds (rabbit was real, not free medication halucinations). Was lots of other cool stuff there, often lots of magazines (hadn't sold so thrown out, plenty of porn). The odd bottle of booze.

I never ate anything from a dumpster, but think it's fine to do. The amount of waste in out society is disgusting.

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Old 07-29-2006, 01:53 AM   #220
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Its super hypocritical for vegans to pass up a normal burger and then go buy a vegan burger. Im glad you actually see that. We make fun of you cuase its really funny and easy but I think most people here respect you for actually acting on yuor beliefs.
bingo

i'm drunk but you are alright veganmav...i respect your opinions on this stuff

p.s. trash is OK
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:11 AM   #221
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also, I just made this thread cause I thought it was interesting and would make for some great BBV material...plus I really wanted to make the groucho connection.

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Old 07-29-2006, 02:17 AM   #222
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gilf's a loving drunk.
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:18 AM   #223
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Buying non-vegan veggie burgers may be against a vegans morals, but eating them out of the trash may not be.

Do you see why?
I DO !!!
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:21 AM   #224
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Hey Casette,

Here's a question I've got. You mentioned you started a Food not Bombs chapter. I'm cool with that, I think they (mostly) do good work; I've got friends who worked with them a lot in Buffalo. So here's my question. A lot of activists operate on the creed of unselfishness. Maybe you were poor at the time, not sure. But you started the chapter AFTER you realized you had tons of extra food. Why not even before that, if you could afford to feed yourself? (note: I'm not saying it's wrong that you didn't, just curious as to why).

VM,

similar question. You're making buttloads. Still, I've got no problem with you saving money and feeding yourself for free. You may have already mentioned this, but do you take any of the extra food to food banks and food rescue programs?
Most of the food I get, I eat. If there is any left over, I give it to a lot of my Mexican friends who live in a Mexican community hear in Columbus Ohio. I will also drop it off at friends houses who also dumpster dive, and occasionaly they will drop some off at my house.
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:28 AM   #225
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Why wont you eat meat from trash?
I personally don't because I don't think I can stomach it.
As it is I am not even eating canned tuna, just cus I can't stand to (because I haven't eaten meat in so long, not because it is out of the dumpster).

So in short, I am not eating meat out of the dumpster because of the negative association I have with meat.

I have some friends who eat meat out of the trash, and have never gotten sick.
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