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Variance of variance - Casino ****ed me over twice Variance of variance - Casino ****ed me over twice

11-11-2009 , 07:48 PM
The Montreal Casino has already cost thousands of dollars to players in favor of angle-shooters and their own technical BS **** ups.

For tl;dr's, there are two parts to it, the one that cost me more most money was the second one.

My favorite came in yesterday.

First, we're at the 2/5 NL. Some donk always like to raise with hands like 24s as they are well concealed. He's in on the button and min raises to $10. A few callers and to me. I am BB. I take my red chip, add a green chip to it and toss it. A few people call. Our initial donk goes "that's a call!". The dealer says it's a raise, everyone at the table argues in my favor that it's clearly a raise because it's two chips. His argument was I only put in only one more chip than what I had in. We call floor and floor says it's a call. WTF. I tell 'em listen I took my $5, and put in $30 together. The stupid ****ing bitch tells me that it doesn't matter how I put it in, I didn't say "raise" and it's only one more chip over my blind. So it remained a call.


That's okay, these **** ups are common. However, here's an even better one:

5/5 NL. Villain is in for $10K. He has been here for the last 72 hours non stop and has a towering stack of $8K. I have about 2K.

I'm on the button with KQ. Someone makes it $55 to go. I call and Villain calls.

Flop: 765
Checked around.

Turn: 9
Checke to me, I bet $65. Villain raises to $330. I go "you think I got nothing?" and I call. Villain says he hopes I got nothing so that he could bluff me on the river.

River: A
Villain reaches for chips. Piles up his greens, makes a nice pile of $390 and taps the table twice (worst pain in Poker). I ask him how much he got on the side and make a $390 bet. Villain goes to the tank, asks me if I show if he folds. I told him only if he shows and not if he has a bs hand and just wasting time. It was perfectly played. TIME had been called. 60 seconds go by and the dealers does the 10 second run off... 10... 9... 8... 7... 6... 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... and as the dealer says "fold", Villain had pushed his $390 into the middle.

The dealers says it's a fold. Villain argues and argues some more. It was declared a fold. There goes my $390.

Villain claimed to have 10-8 and was happy in the end because the shocked expression in my face said it all. I could not believe it.

It's like on both of the scenarios, the odds of having the correct ruling was 50-50, and I lost both times. It doesn't matter how you play, you never know if one any given day they're gonna apply a certain betting-line or string-bet or one-chip or "forward motion" rule. They may or may not apply it.

I don't know what to do about these clowns or who to report them to. They are well unionized and don't give a ****. Poker is seriously a joke up here.
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11-11-2009 , 07:53 PM
once the dealer says fold then the hand is dead, if the chips are pushed in time then the dealer will not say fold. thats not a bs rule.

first one is a bs ruling, obv should be $30
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11-11-2009 , 08:28 PM
I don't play in casinos but isn't there a rule that if you put in a chip of a higher denomination but don't say raise, it's just a call? Seems like if you weren't trying to be all cool like the guys you see on TV and had said raise, there would have been no misunderstanding.

The second one's just tough ****.
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11-11-2009 , 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
I don't play in casinos but isn't there a rule that if you put in a chip of a higher denomination but don't say raise, it's just a call?
had he just put in the green chip you would be correct and it would just be a call. he also put in the red with the green so it's a raise
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11-11-2009 , 08:39 PM
wow, u rly post about this stuff too?

i hope more of this happens
















to u.
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11-11-2009 , 09:06 PM
tl, dr
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11-11-2009 , 09:16 PM
stop posting.
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11-11-2009 , 09:26 PM
yu said you was gonna quit poker
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11-11-2009 , 09:29 PM
No, I said I was goona quit betting on sports. So far success.
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11-11-2009 , 09:32 PM
We've had this discussion about hand #1 before. I'm with the OP, but apparently other people think differently about that rule.
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11-11-2009 , 09:42 PM
how hard it is to ****ing say raise jesus christ its the most simple rule in the world and every tard ****s it up constantly and constantly bitches and moans about it.
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11-11-2009 , 09:47 PM
I am sick and I didn't not feel like yelling. The place has loud obnoxious music and the dealers are deaf half the time.

When the dealer deals the flop (in slow-motion), half the table has usually checked by the time the dealer is done chit-chatting with his collegue and then going "alright... let's see... button... anddddd check or bet?" to the first person, who has already checked aeons ago.
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