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06-19-2009 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by martin9_90
Are you IDIOTS been serious, when I have a set im not worried about anything in the world

are you guys really that WEAKTIGHT (this means you play weak, like passive, but don't play many hands so wen u do play few hands u play them weak, this is no how u do it btw) im sure i can coach u if u want
please be a troll
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06-19-2009 , 04:36 PM
oblivious troll is oblivious.
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07-03-2009 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by martin9_90
Are you IDIOTS been serious, when I have a set im not worried about anything in the world

are you guys really that WEAKTIGHT (this means you play weak, like passive, but don't play many hands so wen u do play few hands u play them weak, this is no how u do it btw) im sure i can coach u if u want
you shouldn't be worried.. when you have bottom set and face serious aggression it's time to make the simple fold buddy.. hang on tight to that bankroll
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07-03-2009 , 03:47 PM
<3 Verneer

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Originally Posted by martin9_90
when I have a set im not worried about anything in the world
Really? damn, next time you flop a set I'm gonna break into your house... free stuff for the taking, at least until your opponent folds to your minraise
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04-16-2010 , 09:10 PM
gold
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04-16-2010 , 09:50 PM
Really can't tell whether this is a level or not but I'm assuming it is?
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04-16-2010 , 10:53 PM
wait wait wait what about straight flush mining? and nut flush mining?
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04-16-2010 , 11:20 PM
OMG if only I'd seen this thread when it first came out. When I think of all the money I spewed. Take this hand for instance...

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
($607)
Hero ($462)

Dealt to Hero Q Q

Hero raises to $6, calls $4

FLOP ($12) 4 4 Q

checks, Hero bets $8, calls $8

TURN ($28) 4 4 Q A

checks, Hero bets $18, raises to $39, Hero raises to $104, calls $65

RIVER ($236) 4 4 Q A 2

checks, Hero bets $190, raises to $489 (AI), Hero calls $154 (AI)

Hero shows Q Q
(Pre 81%, Flop 4.4%, Turn 2.3%)

shows 4 4
(Pre 19%, Flop 95.6%, Turn 97.7%)

wins $924

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Honestly, could I have played it any worse? We're 230 BB deep and I'm shipping it in on the turn with only the second nut full house?!?

Serves me right for missing this goldmine of first rate strat the first time around. Sigh.

Oh, and...

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04-16-2010 , 11:29 PM
this thread is ******ed noobs
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04-17-2010 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ProdigyXII
Really can't tell whether this is a level or not but I'm assuming it is?

site/sn?
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04-17-2010 , 01:15 AM
I don't get it... I tried your method and lost a BI due to limp/folding and blinds Never managed to hit top set the entire session..

What I do wrong?
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04-17-2010 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by omgliekhax
I don't get it... I tried your method and lost a BI due to limp/folding and blinds Never managed to hit top set the entire session..

What I do wrong?
Nothing - you're doing it just right. You may have lost one BI, but in reality you would have lost MUCH more by continuing on with all those hands that you folded. Looked at that way, you're actually UP several buy-ins, thus proving the worth of this strategy.

Money saved by folding is just as good as money earned by winning the pot. Don't get discouraged.
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04-17-2010 , 01:35 AM
one time I had 55 in a limped multiway pot from the bb. Flop comes 558r. I check to slow play of course. The turn brought the 8 and there was a bet and a call and of course I had to muck it because in that spot I know one of those idiot fish just hit higher quads on my ass. WTG cardgods for rewarding their open limping while giving me the cooler. But I am too smart for that ****!!!
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04-17-2010 , 02:20 PM
Nice escape! You lost the absolute minimum there.
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04-18-2010 , 11:48 AM
i fully understand that new approach after viewing hand hand samples given
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04-18-2010 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by martin9_90
Are you IDIOTS been serious, when I have a set im not worried about anything in the world

are you guys really that WEAKTIGHT (this means you play weak, like passive, but don't play many hands so wen u do play few hands u play them weak, this is no how u do it btw) im sure i can coach u if u want
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04-18-2010 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by martin9_90
Are you IDIOTS been serious, when I have a set im not worried about anything in the world

are you guys really that WEAKTIGHT (this means you play weak, like passive, but don't play many hands so wen u do play few hands u play them weak, this is no how u do it btw) im sure i can coach u if u want
You and bg1 start a site then hmK!!!
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04-18-2010 , 06:59 PM
This is hilarious. I had to do a double take and check the date, cause I'm villain from the last hand in the OP and haven't played that handle in quite some time, or FTP for that matter. I am just recreational, don't study or watch videos so I'm ok with the criticism. I think its hilarious that I actually specifically remember this hand from 3 years ago. My dad was visiting my house in FL and watching, he doesn't know much about poker but is pretty smart, and we were drinking and I when Hero raised PF I jokingly told dad he's got QQ or JJ 90% of the time. The rest of the hand was played almost as a joke for my dad, and although obv -EV, it was so worth it for the look on my dad's face at showdown.

I will also add that at the time you had some very serious glaring betting patterns.
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04-19-2010 , 03:23 PM
Ummmm...im gonna pass on this strategy
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04-19-2010 , 04:17 PM
Personally, I never commit without a Joker in my hand, two if the villain is a nit.
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04-19-2010 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by martin9_90
Are you IDIOTS been serious, when I have a set im not worried about anything in the world

are you guys really that WEAKTIGHT (this means you play weak, like passive, but don't play many hands so wen u do play few hands u play them weak, this is no how u do it btw) im sure i can coach u if u want
Well, if you really want to open up your game you could consider mid-set mining, but generally that style of play is very high variance and only recommended for high-level LAGs who can think through the inevitable tough spots.
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04-20-2010 , 03:17 AM
A+. The best was the hand where the op had top set against villains aces, because even though he played them horrible, he also played them great. And because the op is sarcastic to begin with, it double levels the joke of complimenting the guys play. 5 stars for op, flash of genius. However if you play 9 handed omaha, TSM is no longer satire.
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04-20-2010 , 04:45 AM
solid advice itt, finally fixed my redline
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04-20-2010 , 05:32 AM
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
5 Players

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($9.85)
CO XRMHHIA ($5.98)
BTN RomanCheee ($8.43)
SB xTwoFacex ($10.29)
BB MAC1503 ($11.51)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is UTG 3 3
Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, RomanCheee calls $0.35, xTwoFacex raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, RomanCheee calls $0.25

Flop: 3 Q K ($1.95, 3 players)
xTwoFacex bets $1.90, Hero calls $1.90, RomanCheee folds

Turn: 8 ($5.75, 2 players)
xTwoFacex bets $5.70, Hero raises to $7.35, xTwoFacex calls $1.65

River: 4 ($20.45, 2 players)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $20.45
Hero shows
3 3
xTwoFacex shows
K A

Hero wins $19.38 (net +$9.53)

RomanCheee lost $0.60
xTwoFacex lost $9.85


I should fold instead of shoving here right? I guess folding pre would have been better since the only chance I had of winning was flopping 33X
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