Top Set Mining (TSM)
05-11-2007
, 12:50 PM
05-29-2007
, 08:39 PM
05-29-2007
, 10:49 PM
I think the OP is onto something...
OMG TOP SET WOO HOO
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
MP1 ($17.40)
MP2 ($14.75)
MP3 ($21.85)
CO ($13.10)
Button ($10.05)
Hero ($24.25)
BB ($9.90)
UTG ($31.25)
UTG+1 ($23.65)
Preflop: Hero is SB with T
, T
.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.7, 3 folds, Button calls $0.70, Hero calls $0.60, 1 fold.
Flop: ($2.35) T
, 2
, 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.
Turn: ($2.35) 6 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.5, MP1 raises to $16.7, Button folds, Hero calls $15.20.
River: ($35.75) 2 (2 players)
Final Pot: $35.75
Villian showed 66 for the losing set
I think I may have played this a little weird, but the $$$ was going in regardless. Middle set = no good
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
UTG+1 ($21.65)
MP1 ($18.25)
MP2 ($42.70)
MP3 ($17.75)
CO ($16.40)
Hero ($23.30)
SB ($10.40)
BB ($11.60)
UTG ($23.40)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 9.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $1, 1 fold, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75.
Flop: ($4.35) K, 3, 9 (4 players)
UTG checks, MP1 bets $2, MP3 folds, Hero calls $2, UTG folds.
Turn: ($8.35) A (2 players)
MP1 bets $2, Hero calls $2.
River: ($12.35) T (2 players)
MP1 bets $2.75, Hero raises to $14, MP1 calls $10.50 (All-In).
Final Pot: $39.60
Villian calls me a fish for continuing with QJ, and, after using his timebank calls with AA.
OMG TOP SET WOO HOO
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
MP1 ($17.40)
MP2 ($14.75)
MP3 ($21.85)
CO ($13.10)
Button ($10.05)
Hero ($24.25)
BB ($9.90)
UTG ($31.25)
UTG+1 ($23.65)
Preflop: Hero is SB with T
, T. 2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.7, 3 folds, Button calls $0.70, Hero calls $0.60, 1 fold.
Flop: ($2.35) T
, 2, 7 (3 players)Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.
Turn: ($2.35) 6
(3 players)Hero bets $1.5, MP1 raises to $16.7, Button folds, Hero calls $15.20.
River: ($35.75) 2
(2 players)Final Pot: $35.75
Villian showed 66 for the losing set
I think I may have played this a little weird, but the $$$ was going in regardless. Middle set = no good
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
UTG+1 ($21.65)
MP1 ($18.25)
MP2 ($42.70)
MP3 ($17.75)
CO ($16.40)
Hero ($23.30)
SB ($10.40)
BB ($11.60)
UTG ($23.40)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 9
, 9. UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $1, 1 fold, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75.
Flop: ($4.35) K
, 3, 9 (4 players)UTG checks, MP1 bets $2, MP3 folds, Hero calls $2, UTG folds.
Turn: ($8.35) A
(2 players)MP1 bets $2, Hero calls $2.
River: ($12.35) T
(2 players)MP1 bets $2.75, Hero raises to $14, MP1 calls $10.50 (All-In).
Final Pot: $39.60
Villian calls me a fish for continuing with QJ, and, after using his timebank calls with AA.
10-10-2007
, 10:49 AM
If only my opponent had taken your strategy article into account and folded his flopped nut boat, then he wouldn't have got stacked. I think I played the hand too aggressively with second nut quads, I mean I was kinda scared he had KK :-)
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
saw flop|saw showdown
Button ($114.70)
SB ($198)
Hero ($226.25)
UTG ($378.30)
MP ($101.70)
CO ($217.80)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7.
1 fold, MP raises to $7, 3 folds, Hero calls $5.
Flop: ($15) K, K, A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2, Hero calls $2.
Turn: ($19) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, MP calls $12.
River: ($43) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $32, MP raises to $80.7 (All-In), Hero calls $48.70.
Final Pot: $204.40
Results:
Hero has 7d 7s (four of a kind, sevens).
MP has Ah Kd (full house, kings full of aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $204.40. </font>
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
saw flop|saw showdown
Button ($114.70)
SB ($198)
Hero ($226.25)
UTG ($378.30)
MP ($101.70)
CO ($217.80)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7
, 7. 1 fold, MP raises to $7, 3 folds, Hero calls $5.
Flop: ($15) K
, K, A (2 players)Hero checks, MP bets $2, Hero calls $2.
Turn: ($19) 7
(2 players)Hero bets $12, MP calls $12.
River: ($43) 7
(2 players)Hero bets $32, MP raises to $80.7 (All-In), Hero calls $48.70.
Final Pot: $204.40
Results:
Hero has 7d 7s (four of a kind, sevens).
MP has Ah Kd (full house, kings full of aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $204.40. </font>
10-19-2007
, 08:16 PM
Here's a prime example of how to make disciplined laydowns, with length annotations.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
MP1 ($315)
MP2 ($200)
MP3 ($187)
CO ($230)
Button ($185)
Hero ($200)
BB ($236)
UTG ($108)
UTG+1 ($474)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K.
7 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.
There's no point in raising pocket Kings. The only hand that's going to give you any action is a huge favourite. Limit potential losses and increase implied odds by limping.
Flop: ($4) Q, K, 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.
I've flopped top set! Betting here would be too obvious as you're not going to get any action, your only hope is to induce a bluff. It also increases the damage of a suckout - sometimes it's better to make a slightly -EV play in order to reduce the trauma of variance.
Turn: ($4) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2, Hero calls $2.
Uh-oh, we're down to the second nuts *and* the Villain has decided to come out betting! A lot of players recommend folding here, and many of them would think me mad for calling. But I have a read that the Villain can make moves at this pot with a large range of hands, e.g. holding a deuce and counting that I won't be able to call given that 22 is an impossible holding for me. The Villain's range is polarized, however, between a stone cold bluff and the nuts, so there is little point in raising. I call and reevaluate my position on the river.
River: ($8) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero folds.
Uh oh! The Villain clearly doesn't care about my turn call and has fired out a value bet clearly designed to make my hand pay off his quads. Any other value bet would be extremely thin indeed and it would extremely intimidating to bluff a second barrel on such a scary board. I trust my read and throw my hand in the muck.
Final Pot: $8
Villain shows hand: Q, Q.
Oh well, the Villain had nothing but a busted quad draw. You can't beat yourself up every time you make a good laydown just because you'll occasionally be bluffed. Look on the bright side: I only lost an $8 pot here. If I'd gone crazy with with my marginal hand and ran into quad 2s or if the quad Queen draw had hit, I'd have lost a much bigger pot. That's what good poker players mean when they talk about "winning a small pot or losing a large one".
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
MP1 ($315)
MP2 ($200)
MP3 ($187)
CO ($230)
Button ($185)
Hero ($200)
BB ($236)
UTG ($108)
UTG+1 ($474)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K
, K. 7 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.
There's no point in raising pocket Kings. The only hand that's going to give you any action is a huge favourite. Limit potential losses and increase implied odds by limping.
Flop: ($4) Q
, K, 2 (2 players)Hero checks, BB checks.
I've flopped top set! Betting here would be too obvious as you're not going to get any action, your only hope is to induce a bluff. It also increases the damage of a suckout - sometimes it's better to make a slightly -EV play in order to reduce the trauma of variance.
Turn: ($4) 2
(2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $2, Hero calls $2.
Uh-oh, we're down to the second nuts *and* the Villain has decided to come out betting! A lot of players recommend folding here, and many of them would think me mad for calling. But I have a read that the Villain can make moves at this pot with a large range of hands, e.g. holding a deuce and counting that I won't be able to call given that 22 is an impossible holding for me. The Villain's range is polarized, however, between a stone cold bluff and the nuts, so there is little point in raising. I call and reevaluate my position on the river.
River: ($8) 6
(2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero folds.
Uh oh! The Villain clearly doesn't care about my turn call and has fired out a value bet clearly designed to make my hand pay off his quads. Any other value bet would be extremely thin indeed and it would extremely intimidating to bluff a second barrel on such a scary board. I trust my read and throw my hand in the muck.
Final Pot: $8
Villain shows hand: Q
, Q. Oh well, the Villain had nothing but a busted quad draw. You can't beat yourself up every time you make a good laydown just because you'll occasionally be bluffed. Look on the bright side: I only lost an $8 pot here. If I'd gone crazy with with my marginal hand and ran into quad 2s or if the quad Queen draw had hit, I'd have lost a much bigger pot. That's what good poker players mean when they talk about "winning a small pot or losing a large one".
10-19-2007
, 08:21 PM
Quote:
Here's a prime example of how to make disciplined laydowns, with length annotations.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
MP1 ($315)
MP2 ($200)
MP3 ($187)
CO ($230)
Button ($185)
Hero ($200)
BB ($236)
UTG ($108)
UTG+1 ($474)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K.
7 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.
There's no point in raising pocket Kings. The only hand that's going to give you any action is a huge favourite. Limit potential losses and increase implied odds by limping.
Flop: ($4) Q, K, 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.
I've flopped top set! Betting here would be too obvious as you're not going to get any action, your only hope is to induce a bluff. It also increases the damage of a suckout - sometimes it's better to make a slightly -EV play in order to reduce the trauma of variance.
Turn: ($4) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2, Hero calls $2.
Uh-oh, we're down to the second nuts *and* the Villain has decided to come out betting! A lot of players recommend folding here, and many of them would think me mad for calling. But I have a read that the Villain can make moves at this pot with a large range of hands, e.g. holding a deuce and counting that I won't be able to call given that 22 is an impossible holding for me. The Villain's range is polarized, however, between a stone cold bluff and the nuts, so there is little point in raising. I call and reevaluate my position on the river.
River: ($8) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero folds.
Uh oh! The Villain clearly doesn't care about my turn call and has fired out a value bet clearly designed to make my hand pay off his quads. Any other value bet would be extremely thin indeed and it would extremely intimidating to bluff a second barrel on such a scary board. I trust my read and throw my hand in the muck.
Final Pot: $8
Villain shows hand: Q, Q.
Oh well, the Villain had nothing but a busted quad draw. You can't beat yourself up every time you make a good laydown just because you'll occasionally be bluffed. Look on the bright side: I only lost an $8 pot here. If I'd gone crazy with with my marginal hand and ran into quad 2s or if the quad Queen draw had hit, I'd have lost a much bigger pot. That's what good poker players mean when they talk about "winning a small pot or losing a large one".
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
MP1 ($315)
MP2 ($200)
MP3 ($187)
CO ($230)
Button ($185)
Hero ($200)
BB ($236)
UTG ($108)
UTG+1 ($474)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K
, K. 7 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.
There's no point in raising pocket Kings. The only hand that's going to give you any action is a huge favourite. Limit potential losses and increase implied odds by limping.
Flop: ($4) Q
, K, 2 (2 players)Hero checks, BB checks.
I've flopped top set! Betting here would be too obvious as you're not going to get any action, your only hope is to induce a bluff. It also increases the damage of a suckout - sometimes it's better to make a slightly -EV play in order to reduce the trauma of variance.
Turn: ($4) 2
(2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $2, Hero calls $2.
Uh-oh, we're down to the second nuts *and* the Villain has decided to come out betting! A lot of players recommend folding here, and many of them would think me mad for calling. But I have a read that the Villain can make moves at this pot with a large range of hands, e.g. holding a deuce and counting that I won't be able to call given that 22 is an impossible holding for me. The Villain's range is polarized, however, between a stone cold bluff and the nuts, so there is little point in raising. I call and reevaluate my position on the river.
River: ($8) 6
(2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero folds.
Uh oh! The Villain clearly doesn't care about my turn call and has fired out a value bet clearly designed to make my hand pay off his quads. Any other value bet would be extremely thin indeed and it would extremely intimidating to bluff a second barrel on such a scary board. I trust my read and throw my hand in the muck.
Final Pot: $8
Villain shows hand: Q
, Q. Oh well, the Villain had nothing but a busted quad draw. You can't beat yourself up every time you make a good laydown just because you'll occasionally be bluffed. Look on the bright side: I only lost an $8 pot here. If I'd gone crazy with with my marginal hand and ran into quad 2s or if the quad Queen draw had hit, I'd have lost a much bigger pot. That's what good poker players mean when they talk about "winning a small pot or losing a large one".
10-19-2007
, 09:38 PM
10-19-2007
, 09:38 PM
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, 01:52 AM
