Money, I finally hit.

Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/05/10

Seat 2: seat2
Seat 3: seat3 ($54.75)
Seat 4: seat4
Seat 5: TopSetMiner($35.15)
Seat 6: seat6
Seat 7: seat7
Seat 8: seat8
Seat 9: seat9

seat2: posts small blind $0.25
seat3: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TopSetMiner [6h 6d]
seat4: folds
TopSetMiner: calls $0.50
seat6: folds
seat7: folds
seat8: folds
seat9: folds
seat2: calls $0.25
seat3: checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 2d 6c]
seat2: checks
seat3: checks
TopSetMiner: checks
*** TURN *** [2c 2d 6c] [Jc]
seat2: checks
seat3: bets $1
TopSetMiner: raises $2 to $3
seat2: folds
seat3: raises $2 to $5
TopSetMiner: raises $10 to $15
Seat3: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [2c 2d 6c Jc] [5d]
Seat3: bets $39.25 and is all-in
TopSetMiner: calls $19.65 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Seat3: shows [4c 3c] (a flush, Jack high)
TopSetMiner: shows [6h 6d] (a full house, Sixes full of Deuces)
TopSetMiner collected $67.80 from pot

[censored] it!!!

Salllllaazzzzaarrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mis-apply. Fish.

Great post OP.

So true.

I know man, with that action I thought he had JJ or 22 for sure. I guess I'm not good enough to make that laydown yet. Luckily it worked out for me this time!

Classic fish play 9/10 times you will see 22 here.
It's just like Sklansky says, 100bb is just too much to risk with the second nuts, especially when you're playing with an invisible ante.

As a rule of thumb, yes this is good. But like so many situations in poker, the only absolutely correct answer to "should i fold my quads in case he has overquads here?" is "it depends".

While the situations when it's correct to do so are rare, having the discipline to lay down quads when "you know you're beat" is what separates the good players from the truly great, and will probably greatly increase your win rate.

I think OP advocates playing a much loser style of unlimited no limit hold them than i'd feel comfortable playing.

Personally, i never play cash games unless we're all 234574363432 BBs deep, and only ever see the flop with hands where i can do some straight-flush mining.

We've all been felted when our quads run into straight flushes, and that's why i've adjusted in this way to the new world of hold 'em.

Drawing to quads is just a recipe for disaster.

this is awesome

best theory post on 2p2, keep on farming.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$5/$10 Blinds
6 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

acold2eyes: $617.25
browerkid: $1,037.00
FRUCKOFF: $1,054.00
cosmicpoker: $1,751.25
Hero: $1,484.00
Hart_Foundation: $1,199.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4 4 (6 Players)
FRUCKOFF folds, cosmicpoker folds, Hero raises to $35.00, Hart_Foundation raises to $120.00, acold2eyes folds, browerkid folds, Hero calls $85.00

Flop: ($255) T 4 T (2 Players)
Hero checks, Hart_Foundation checks

Turn: ($255) 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, Hart_Foundation bets $195.00, Hero calls $195.00

River: ($645) 8 (2 Players)
Hero bets $425.00, Hart_Foundation raises all-in to $884.00, Hero calls $459.00

Pot Size: $2,413.00 ($3 Rake)

Hart_Foundation had 7 6 (a straight, Eight high) and LOST (-$1,199.00)
Hero had 4 4 (a full house, Fours full of Tens) and WON (+$1,211.00)

lol runnerrunnerments!~

85% sure she is serious. LOL

I thought set mining was a myth

I play 25 handed.
The royal flush mining strategy is way better imo.

playing with 2 decks you should include straight flushes, and 5 of a kinds. but thats pretty laggy

How did I miss this bit of info.

[censored] brilliant OP!

Solid Strategy IMHO. Just don't forget what Doyle said "never go broke with the arse end of a straight flush"....or was that TJ....?

I cant beleive I have been set-mining with all those stupid other pairs other than AA-QQ?
The GREAT thing now,is that if I have QQ and flop a set on a K Q 4r board ,,,I will EASILY MUCK them,just in case my opponent hit a set of KINGS.

Just seeing that overcard scares the &^($#(_(&^%^%**$$ out of me!!

Thank YOU SOoooooooooo Much!!!

This is an interesting hand to look at more closely.

I think a call is incorrect here but close. It's $20 to win $50 so you are getting 2.5 to 1 on your money. Let's look at the villain's range for pushing the river:

{22, JJ, 34}

So you lose to 66% of them. This makes the call mathematically incorrect. But ... I read in a book that there is always like a 10% chance that the villain is bluffing, so you have to factor that in.

It's easy to say "call" after seeing the results, but that's just being results oriented IMO.

I think this is an easy fold, because you still haven't factored in the times when villain has rolled up jacks. Or if he's really fishy, rolled up 5s.

just be patient

Awesome