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Old 02-12-2008, 08:27 PM   #1
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Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

My opinion that it is, here's my basic strategy:

-limp with AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, 88, 77, 66, 55
(when no callers before you and in early to middle position)
*Raise with AA, KK, QQ in middle position if you're likely to be called, always raise in late position, unless you're on button with AA, KK, then decided between limping, raise minimum, normal raise, extra large raise*

-limp with AK, AQ, AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, KT, QJ, QT, JT (suited/offsuit)
Treat AK/AQ same as AA/KK in late position

-limp with A9s, A8s, A7s, A6s, A5s, A4s, A3s, A2s
(I suggest never raising with these hands, even in late position with no1 opening the pot, why bet when you're most likely a 55-45 or 60-40 favorite? Let the sb call a half bet, let the BB flop an awful 2 pair, hit your flush, 2 pair, or trips A kicker

-when i'm raised after limping with AA or KK, or AK, i check raise

-when i'm raised after limping with QQ, JJ, TT i normally flat call

-when i'm raised after limping with 99, 88, 77, 66, 55 i either call/fold (depending on pot odds, position, table feel etc)

-when i'm raised after limping with AQs, AJs, ATs i normally flat call, same usually goes for AQ unless it's a rock

-I use my discretion with A-X suited, but normall call a tiny raise, or fold to a decent one unless it's still a multi-way pot after the raise and i do not suspect another reraise, or i'm last to act after the raise.

-As for AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, KT, QJ, QT, JT my default move is to fold, the plan was to see a cheap flop and hit the nut straight. If i'm in position against 1-2 players I will normally bet with my gut-shot draw after check/check. Against 3+ opponents, i'll always check.

-44, 33, 22 are playable, but you lose nothing from leaving them out, in looser games i'd always play them and never fear set over set UNLESS it's a nothing pot (if its all limpers, then on the flop there's crazy action, normally you play along with it, but with good players, you may fold (rare but happens)
*i'm reminded of doyle brunson's super system when he discusses over-investing in a "Nothing" Pot

-In an extra lose game I'll limp with more suited connectors. I love to limp with pretty much any suited connector on the button, and on the cutoff if the button isn't an aggressive player.

-I normally do not steal the blinds, the only time I consider it a good move is with a decent drawing hand with absolutely no limpers/bettors before you and you expect to be heads up vs the BB or SB, or both. (Getting money in the pot with good, but not strong hands in position vs calling station blinds is usually never a bad idea)

This strategy is basically tight-passive, and at lower limit, i'd argue that is the most PROFITABLE way to play. I'm speaking of micro-limits, $0.25-0.50 cents down to 1/2 cent

Also a noteable part of my strategy. I will play 54s, 53s, 52s, 43s, 42s, 32s and their non-suited counter parts with many limpers, especially in position. People look at starting hands the wrong way, ie - which is most likely to win the pot. My theory is to pick hands that when they win, they win a NICE pot.

Flop comes A 2 4
your opponent with AK/AQ/AJ/AT/A4s/A2s thinks "wow what a great flop"

with 53, you've got the nuts and a huge pot is coming your way, also there's no thinking to playing this hands, you either hit, flop a draw (gutshot mainly), or just let it go for the minimum (calling the BB)

I've never heard or read about people showing the same respect for these hands, i think they deserve some credit similar to KJ, KT, QJ, QT, JT unsuited.

Also if i choose to limp with A2 and the flop hits 345 on an unraised flop, i play cautiously, no reason to lose a big pot to 76s, or 65s with top pair/open ended draw (only 2 to 1 favorite)
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:30 PM   #2
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

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Old 02-12-2008, 08:30 PM   #3
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

this is really bad.

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Old 02-12-2008, 08:31 PM   #4
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

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Im torn between deleting and locking this.
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:32 PM   #5
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

Perhaps move it to BBV?
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:32 PM   #6
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

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Old 02-12-2008, 08:32 PM   #7
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

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Old 02-12-2008, 08:34 PM   #8
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

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-when i'm raised after limping with AA or KK, or AK, i check raise
- the plan was to see a cheap flop and hit the nut straight.
- Also if i choose to limp with A2 and the flop hits 345 on an unraised flop, i play cautiously, no reason to lose a big pot to 76s, or 65s with top pair/open ended draw (only 2 to 1 favorite)
hahaha these are the best
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:35 PM   #9
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:37 PM   #10
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

Dear BBV,

Here is a strategy gift from MicroNL to help you with winning in Unlimited Hold Them. Please note this was originally posted as serious business strategy in uNL
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:37 PM   #11
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

B+ gimmick
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:42 PM   #12
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

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Old 02-12-2008, 08:43 PM   #13
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

i finally understand what is going through their heads
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:45 PM   #14
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gimmick for sure.
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:48 PM   #15
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i hope its a gimmick
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:10 PM   #16
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:10 PM   #17
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

either a gimmick or born yesterday

pretty funny stuff tho, i must say
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:17 PM   #18
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

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either a gimmick or born yesterday

pretty funny stuff tho, i must say
That is a lot of thought, energy, and writing - for a gimmick.

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Old 02-12-2008, 09:19 PM   #19
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

Right out of the "How to slowly lose in poker" playbook afaik
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:23 PM   #20
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

I'm really really tempted to attempt this at like 1/2 and rape them postflop and post awesome PT stats. Maybe tomorrow.
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:24 PM   #21
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

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Old 02-12-2008, 09:24 PM   #22
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I'm really really tempted to attempt this at like 1/2 and rape them postflop and post awesome PT stats. Maybe tomorrow.
do it.
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:27 PM   #23
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Re: Tight Passive best strategy in micro-limit?

Is there any chance we could get some people who play 40/0/0.5, 70/30/5, 60/12/1 to write strategy articles for the stickies just so we can gain an understanding of some of their thought processes and how they evaluate certain situations. Also short stacker's would be good.
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:29 PM   #24
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do it.
And post graphs/stats ITT so we can all see.
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