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Old 06-22-2008, 12:01 AM   #76
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Re: TAG's Can Run Good Too! Nearly $100k in June at 5/10

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well looks like we know which 1/2 you're in
yeah LA HATER
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:16 AM   #77
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this is really sick, maybe I need to subscribe to stox
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:23 AM   #78
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I can confidently say that at 6max 10/20 FTP I have run very poorly over this sample size of 80kish hands. And if you think some styles work better for different games then how do you explain my WR for 25/50 6 max?
your game selection is significantly tighter when you play 25/50, obviously.

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In my opinion you have one set way that YOU think makes a player good. Your idea of good is that he is "tough to play against." And by "tough to play against" you mean that he bets and raises and puts you in difficult spots all of the time.
Not at all. My ideal of a truly good player is one who is well rounded(good @ hu thru 9 handed), can thrive in soft games, but can also hold his own in very tough games for his limit.

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Or simply put, the player is annoying to you. But in poker the money comes from getting your opponents to misjudge your range. So although some may play a tigher preflop style than others, that doesn't mean that people are judging their ranges correctly and that is where the money ultimately comes from.
Dealt to FoldTOcash [Qd Qc]
KidMagic22 folds
Leatherass9 raises to $70
FoldTOcash raises to $240
Ptalco folds
w00t4d0nks folds
Scimmietta folds
Leatherass9 raises to $615
FoldTOcash has 15 seconds left to act
FoldTOcash has requested TIME
FoldTOcash raises to $2,556.15, and is all in
Leatherass9 calls $1,462, and is all in
FoldTOcash shows [Qd Qc]
Leatherass9 shows [Jd Jc]



seems like you got that part bout misjudging range right. To anyone whos never played with you this looks standard. however QQ isn't a fistpump vs you like it is vs most. That is unless you 4bet shove Ax, because you think every button 3bet of mine has to be rags.



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Bottom line is that there are like 1000 factors that go into being a great player. You took one factor (preflop strategy) that you think I am weak in and therefore give me little respect because of it. Truth be told, most of these regs that are criticizing me just aren't good enough to realize why I am winning so much.
actually I don't think that your tight preflop strategy is a leak.

just like good2CU said- you excel at game selecting, not tilting(although I have seen it once or twice) and playing well over a lot of tables. very few people can play good over that many tables- this is a huge skill in itself.


good2cu- leatherass can make weird/spewy plays, they are just a bit more random and infrequent than most players.

to the nuthuggers- HU? sorry if I don't think another player is good(I've tried to refrain from posting my true feelings, as I don't want to be too big of a *******). maybe he thinks I suck too, thats ok. This is BBV, we all don't have to be nice. And no, the last thing I am is jealous of someone who pisses in a bottle because it saves him 20 minutes a day of extra playing time.
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:02 AM   #79
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:03 AM   #80
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and good job leatherass
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:07 AM   #81
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Leatherass,

I think you are a good player. I know why you win lots of money. You have impecciable game selection, you don't tilt, and you can put in a lot of hours playing near your A game. Also you don't do ******ed lag moves like many regs do when they don't understand how their oppotent plays (misjuding their hand range) and make spewy plays that should be right if their oppotent 'was playing good'. The write off their bad moves to hitting the top of their oppotents range when they don't understand their oppotents hand range at all.

You probaly make as much money vs fish as any regular but you you would probaly lose money to most of the though regs at 25/50, but if you game select well you still win in these games. But honestly, that is such a small part of making money in poker that it doesn't really matter. Bankroll mangement, tilt control and game selection are such a huge part of being a poker pro and far more important than how you actually play hands. You are probaly one of the best in all of these areas.

With all that said I don't think you would currently be one of the biggest winners at the 25/50+ games online. But who cares? There are probaly 10-15 people on the whole internet who making $5/hand+ at NL and they are not able to put in nearly as many hands as you as they have to spend much of their time 2-3 tabling or just sitting around waiting for fish to join.

I don't understand why you are looking for valadation of your play on 2p2. Your style of play, game selection etc. is all about keeping your ego in check and shipping the money. Who cares what other people think of your game who make 1/5th of what they do? If you want to ship the money stick to your game, and if you want their respect start 1-2 tabling and degening it up at the nosebleeds (its a lot more fun anyways).

I have a question for you though. How do you keep up of the movtation to grind the lowstakes? I doubt at this point anymore money is adding to your happiness. I wish I could be a 5/10 grinder but I have a hard time movitating myself to play hands at those stakes when the money is so meaningless to me. I really think there are under a dozen people who make more money at online NL than you do and their swings are stress level are a lot bigger.

Also I'd love to do a bet with you seeing who could make more money in 5/10 in a month, with each of us putting up 20k or so. Would be a lot of fun and moviate me to play 5/10.
never been a g2cu fanboy in the slightest but this was an excellent post.
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:12 AM   #82
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And...inspiring, LA.
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:19 AM   #83
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:49 AM   #84
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this thread is turning great
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:58 AM   #85
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**** the haters

nice work LA
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:32 AM   #86
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Damn ace I thought you were cool .
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:50 AM   #87
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It'd be awesome to see if CTS has any interest in that bet lol

and good job LA, you really are a sicko
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:58 AM   #88
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someone who pisses in a bottle because it saves him 20 minutes a day of extra playing time.
i'll give you 250k if you can find someone who pisses for 20 minutes a day
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Old 06-22-2008, 03:34 AM   #89
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la vs cts prop would be more epic than epic
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Old 06-22-2008, 03:41 AM   #90
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i'll give you 250k if you can find someone who pisses for 20 minutes a day
thinly veiled "i have 250k to give if you can find someone who pisses for 20 minutes" brag post
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Old 06-22-2008, 03:45 AM   #91
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to the nuthuggers- HU? sorry if I don't think another player is good(I've tried to refrain from posting my true feelings, as I don't want to be too big of a *******). maybe he thinks I suck too, thats ok. This is BBV, we all don't have to be nice. And no, the last thing I am is jealous of someone who pisses in a bottle because it saves him 20 minutes a day of extra playing time.
Good logic, Iím better then joo at the pokers which clearly means you canít call me out on being a huge dick who needs to feel better about himself by raining on another's parade.
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:00 AM   #92
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Sick month! I also need to subscribe to Stox hahah.
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:08 AM   #93
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leatherass is the real Knish...
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:11 AM   #94
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i'll give you 250k if you can find someone who pisses for 20 minutes a day

LA said he needs to sit out a whole orbit during his sessions(prob because he plays so many tables) to take a piss. I figured 2 missed orbits = around 20 minutes.

but I could use 250k, so I'll b on the lookout
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:21 AM   #95
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i'll give you 250k if you can find someone who pisses for 20 minutes a day
I'd be wiling to prop bet a decent amount that I can spend 20 mins of 24 hours pissing if there are any takers...
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:41 AM   #96
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man, acer, u look like a fckn idiot.
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:53 AM   #97
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nicely done. Very jealous
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:00 AM   #98
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leatherass is pretty good man and like good good cause he works hard al ot ya know
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:36 AM   #99
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I don't understand why people who think they're better than you get pissed off that you make so much money. Your work ethic is very impressive and you probably deserve the success you've had in poker more than anyone I know. Congrats.
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Old 06-22-2008, 06:17 AM   #100
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Great job LA. Just out of interest, what exactly does "relatively poor months in April and May" actually mean in your world? 30-40k? :-)
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