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Originally Posted by good2cu
Leatherass,
I think you are a good player. I know why you win lots of money. You have impecciable game selection, you don't tilt, and you can put in a lot of hours playing near your A game. Also you don't do ******ed lag moves like many regs do when they don't understand how their oppotent plays (misjuding their hand range) and make spewy plays that should be right if their oppotent 'was playing good'. The write off their bad moves to hitting the top of their oppotents range when they don't understand their oppotents hand range at all.
You probaly make as much money vs fish as any regular but you you would probaly lose money to most of the though regs at 25/50, but if you game select well you still win in these games. But honestly, that is such a small part of making money in poker that it doesn't really matter. Bankroll mangement, tilt control and game selection are such a huge part of being a poker pro and far more important than how you actually play hands. You are probaly one of the best in all of these areas.
With all that said I don't think you would currently be one of the biggest winners at the 25/50+ games online. But who cares? There are probaly 10-15 people on the whole internet who making $5/hand+ at NL and they are not able to put in nearly as many hands as you as they have to spend much of their time 2-3 tabling or just sitting around waiting for fish to join.
I don't understand why you are looking for valadation of your play on 2p2. Your style of play, game selection etc. is all about keeping your ego in check and shipping the money. Who cares what other people think of your game who make 1/5th of what they do? If you want to ship the money stick to your game, and if you want their respect start 1-2 tabling and degening it up at the nosebleeds (its a lot more fun anyways).
I have a question for you though. How do you keep up of the movtation to grind the lowstakes? I doubt at this point anymore money is adding to your happiness. I wish I could be a 5/10 grinder but I have a hard time movitating myself to play hands at those stakes when the money is so meaningless to me. I really think there are under a dozen people who make more money at online NL than you do and their swings are stress level are a lot bigger.
Also I'd love to do a bet with you seeing who could make more money in 5/10 in a month, with each of us putting up 20k or so. Would be a lot of fun and moviate me to play 5/10.
Great post Andrew. I think you are spot on with pretty much everything you said here and I really appreciate the many compliments you gave me. You are obviously a great player yourself so I appreciate it.
I think your assesment of my game and how I would do against a tough 25/50 line up is spot on, but in my opinion, only because no one has seen my game at any time other than when I am ten tabling. There is no way I could make money off of a table full of mostly tough regs while spotting them the edge of playing a crazy number of tables. In my opinion, and I do not state this as a matter of fact but rahter just my opinion, I believe I would do jsut fine versus those lineups if I was playing just 2-3 tables. But like you said, not a big deal and who really cares.
As far as a prop bet goes I would certainly be willing to do one, but I doubt we could come to terms and make both a fair bet and one that would make sense to benefit both of our games. I would be glad to do a bet for a month to see who could make more, but it would ahve to be like 150k hands minimum for the month otherwise it wouldn't be a fair bet for me. I play 150k hands most months and my WR is hurt some because I play such long sessions and play so many tables at once. So if I played my normal 150k hands and you played less and we just compared WR's at month's end, you would have an advantage. At the same time though, I am used to playing that many tables at once and long hours so to ask you to play that many hands, probably gives me an edge. So I am just trying to think of something that is fair, but at the same time makes me want to play a lot of poker. If you can come up with something let me know. I like a bet of around $20k. I like you and you're a vgood player so I'd prefer to keep it pretty friendly with you.
To take it a step further, I will challenge anyone in the world to who can make the most money in a month online on the condition that you have to play 150k + hands and it must be FR or 6 max (No HU) and games played higher than 10/20 DO NOT count to the total. So anything between 5/10 and 10/20 counts. I will make this prop bet with anyone and will make it for up to $250k. We would have to come to fair terms though as I will not make any bet where there is any opportunity whatsoever to cheat. If there are any takers just respond in this thread and I will be happy to start the prop bet anytime after the WSOP ME.
Thanks again Andrew. Nice post.