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04-01-2017 , 08:24 PM
A 27K pot Jesus nh
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04-01-2017 , 08:26 PM
Great update.

Gotta love running pure playing stakes like that. Are the players in this home game any good? Seems like with the hands they have showed up with they aren't complete fish.
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04-01-2017 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by POCKET ROCKETS OOO
Great update.

Gotta love running pure playing stakes like that. Are the players in this home game any good? Seems like with the hands they have showed up with they aren't complete fish.
Come on down and find out, S!!

When is your next trip and to where?
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04-02-2017 , 03:46 PM
Great update. Yep, headed back across the alley soon. If you see a tuned / suped-up Scion FR-S with some Toyota stickers, feel free to rally lol.
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04-02-2017 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Truestoryteller
Yeah man, I lived there from 1981-1988 in White Plains. Don't have many stories from back then, I'll see if I can remember something worth writing about my early days.

I would definitely take you up on meeting up in Vegas. If things work out correctly I may have to make a road trip in the Santa Fe out there.
Surely you don't mean a road trip to visit the Santa Fe Station Casino?
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04-02-2017 , 07:35 PM
I will go and stop by any casino that is on the way if I made the trip out there.

Basically, it comes down to the relationship (or lack thereof) that I have with Nicole's mother. I won't go into specifics at the moment but she is generally a terrible human being that I believe may have mild cases of Aspberger's and Tourette's combined. I don't want to give away what is coming up in the not too distant future in the story (The Incident), but I built the plant nursery on the idea that a chunk of money was coming my way in the next few months, and if it does, I will make it out that way. I will definitely give updates either here or on Twitter. I would love a road trip where I would get the chance to meet as many people as possible and play some games in as many states as possible.
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04-02-2017 , 10:15 PM
Understood. If you ever come to Vegas, it would be my pleasure to extend you tix to the show of your choice... it's the least I can do in consideration of the colossal entertainment value this thread has delivered.
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04-02-2017 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by VegasGroove
Understood. If you ever come to Vegas, it would be my pleasure to extend you tix to the show of your choice... it's the least I can do in consideration of the colossal entertainment value this thread has delivered.
Well that definitely means a lot, I would definitely take you up on that when I do get out there and thank you. I really would like a nice long vacation in the desert to be honest!
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04-03-2017 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by POCKET ROCKETS OOO
Great update.

Gotta love running pure playing stakes like that. Are the players in this home game any good? Seems like with the hands they have showed up with they aren't complete fish.
Surprisingly they seemed like they were pretty good at the game. I think a lot of them where old school O8 players and had a basic understanding of how it was played. I think I logged a **** ton of hours playing the game online to work on it to sort of catch up in the past 2 years. PLO8 is not nearly as common as regular PLO in Florida, and when it is, it is usually a mid-stakes game at the very least. It was cheaper to learn playing .10/.25 the mistakes I was making, as well as talking to a guy who was well known for being a mixed games pro helped me out in that transition to H/L.
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04-03-2017 , 10:59 AM
Great update.

(my proofreading skills detect too many tens of spades in the deck, though)
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04-03-2017 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AllJackedUp
Great update.

(my proofreading skills detect too many tens of spades in the deck, though)
Whoops, it was a black 10 in my hand, it was likely the 10. I remember I was not double suited.
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04-03-2017 , 03:30 PM
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Come on down and find out, S!!

When is your next trip and to where?
LA is next.

Pops just got a house in Naples so I prob head down there for sometime in the fall before he moves in for the winter.
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04-03-2017 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by POCKET ROCKETS OOO
LA is next.

Pops just got a house in Naples so I prob head down there for sometime in the fall before he moves in for the winter.
damn a house in Naples and that sick car? Good life. that's actually where we play, so come say high and jump in. Hope all is going well man.
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04-05-2017 , 01:56 AM
Great update as usual.

Currently filming in Tampa/Everglades/Miami - agreed on the fire red sunsets, they are amazing. I have really been enjoying it. I also saw many of the spots which you spoke of in this thread, it felt like a historical trip (-;

Also the financial contrast between some of the rich neighbourhood(next to the sea/private islands) and poor neighbourhoods(mainland) is shocking to my Canadian sensibilities. You spoke about it a few times in this thread but to see it from my own eyes is quite something.
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04-05-2017 , 07:27 AM
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Great update as usual.

Currently filming in Tampa/Everglades/Miami - agreed on the fire red sunsets, they are amazing. I have really been enjoying it. I also saw many of the spots which you spoke of in this thread, it felt like a historical trip (-;

Also the financial contrast between some of the rich neighbourhood(next to the sea/private islands) and poor neighbourhoods(mainland) is shocking to my Canadian sensibilities. You spoke about it a few times in this thread but to see it from my own eyes is quite something.
Considering that these parts of Florida were not developed during segregation, it is quite segregated due to income/educational differences without any laws or government sanctioned ghettos put in to place. While you are down here, I would visit Everglades City, Flamingo, Sanibel/Captiva, and if you can come a tad bit more north, PM me and I can show you around some unknown parts of coastal Lee county.
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04-05-2017 , 10:25 AM
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Considering that these parts of Florida were not developed during segregation, it is quite segregated due to income/educational differences without any laws or government sanctioned ghettos put in to place. While you are down here, I would visit Everglades City, Flamingo, Sanibel/Captiva, and if you can come a tad bit more north, PM me and I can show you around some unknown parts of coastal Lee county.
Very interesting, didn't think it was that much segregated.
Won't be able to go North unfortunately but will try to check out Sanibel before leaving. I saw Everglades city and it was pretty cool.
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04-06-2017 , 07:44 PM
Playing Full Time, Jenny - 2013 Part 1

At the beginning of 2013, I had broken up with Kelly, as we just didn't see eye to eye. To her, poker was gambling, and when she wanted to see some opera at $125 a head in Naples and I wanted to go down to Bonita to chase the promotion chasers, we essentially had parted ways. The problem was I lived 85 miles away from her place, and still rented her land out for my nursery. It was not a viable commute, and I didn't want to make things awkward, so I came just to sell things off, and at this point, that was my only option. I was tired of moving plants all over South Florida whether it was a failed relationship, land deal, or other. For the second time in 5 years, I was going to sell off my nursery stock and move on - this time I was going to play poker full time. No more potting up plants in the 95F heat, trying to dodge the downpours. No more customers haggling me over a few dollars on a thousand dollar plant. I wanted the freedom that poker could give me. No customers I had to listen to and talk my ear off, no more squirrels chewing up my profit by eating my seedlings. I remember spending the last night of 2012 sitting at Bonefish Grill with Casey and her new boyfriend Andrew. Andrew and I were talking, and he was quite a weird guy. He worked for his mom doing checkups on foreclosed homes as well as insurance writeups, and he was very monotone and boring. When I told him I played poker he said he had paid for college playing on Full Tilt, but couldn't tell me what stakes he played or even his screen name, so I just called BS in my head. He wouldn't eat much besides hamburgers, hotdogs, and bacon. He hated all forms of music, and had been married for five years to some Argentinian girl who had been a New Kids on the Block groupie. When I say groupie, I mean she literally would travel with them like Deadheads did for the Grateful Dead. She had a tattoo of the group on the side of her torso, and she was also particularly manly. Sitting there around midnight I realized I could have moved in on Casey and we could have been friends with benefits, but that time had passed by – it was probably for the best.

I was happy to be back by the water, around my friends, family, and maybe the most important thing to me at the time, poker. Selling the nursery off gave me a proper bankroll for 2/5NL and enough to take shots at 2/5 and 5/5 PLO. I would give Tim rides in my Veloster (think Trooper's car, just in black) and we would play all night. I had to counter Tim's weight in the small car, but it still handled like a champ and was always good to me. I would sometimes take the kidnapper van at night because it could handle his weight much better and no one would go near it due to its appearance. Our usual routine would be me waking up around 4pm from a nap, calling him to ask him if he wanted to play, which was just a formality, and getting on the road around 530. I would stop and get a banana and a soda, and he would get an XXL Monster which for him was a heart attack waiting to happen. We usually played until 2am, which was close at the time, then head home and hit up the 24 hour Taco Bell, eat, watch poker, rinse and repeat. Tim insisted I play 2/5NL because there was much more money to be made. After a month or two, I finally gave in and sat down at the Sunday game, booking a $400 win. Being there 5 days a week was a grind, but it had started to become a home as well. In the Spring of 2013, after talking to Mike during his downs at my table, I talked to him outside on his smoke break. We had discussed PLO at the table, his ex-fiance (Batwoman) who at the time was living with some guy in St. Pete, and shooting pool at a place near his apartment. I took him up on his offer, and we would hang out Tuesday nights in his neck of the woods, play $20 games with other guys, and it was also the official hangout night for many of the dealers. During these months, I had started to get to know the dealers and floor pretty well, and the cardroom had become my new second home. There was many a drunken night of him dumping a paycheck onto Bovada and we would switch off playing 2/4PLO and run it up nicely, only for him to chase losses in BJ and slots. I vividly remember getting into a hand were I flopped bottom set on a dry board and after getting 3 bet on the flop, Mike grabbed the mouse and tried to get 200BBs in with no draw, and me yelling "NO, HE HAS A SET OF 9s, don't waste your ****ing money!" Of course he clicked pot and we were shown 99 and he went silent.

It was also during this time I was on the prowl to meet someone new in my life. I was not trying that hard because I cared more about my poker passion, and knew that most women around my age wouldn't respect my decision to play full time. I countered that by just hitting on the 21-25 crowd, and it seemed to work well. I spent very little time at the house I rented from my mom on the southside of town, I would usually be on the north end staying over at Mike's or a couple of the girls' places I had met. The spring and summer of 2013 were the glory days of my friendship with Mike. We would hit up Derby Lane where I would either play the $120, $200, or the 1-3 game and the 5-10 PLO game when it ran. I would put Mike into the 1-3 game there and he would rarely be left with any chips at the end of the night, but he always paid me back on Thursday night at 2am, when his check hit the bank. It was also during this time I kept on running into Dustin and Dave around the Tampa poker scene. They first started showing up at the Sunday $5k guarantee in Sarasota, where Dustin saw me get coolered with Aces, and then he knocked me out of the Derby $200 when I shoved A2 into JJ BTN vs. SB. I saw him go on to get 5th place and congratulated him, telling him that I was glad my chips went to good use. During one of the summer series at SHR Tampa I got a seat at one of the 2/5 PLO games and sitting in seat 7, he was sitting in seat 2.

“So you play this game too, eh?” I asked, curious where this guy had come from.

“Honestly this is my first time playing live.” I thought he was joking but his play showed otherwise. He somehow got in a 3 way all in with K9xxhh on a 678hh board vs 88xx and 910xx and hit the gin Ah on the river. After proclaiming he had the nuts, the two players looked at their hands in disgust and left the table, and he scooped the pot non-chalantly like he had made the right shove there. I started laughing because it was almost as if the cards had trolled the two players and Dustin had no idea he could have been drawing stone cold dead. An orbit later I had JJ73 in the big blind and called the $5 BTN straddle and a $15 raise from MP and saw a QJ2dd flop, which I had no diamonds. I led out for $45 into a $50 pot and Dustin said “pot” and got a cold caller. I knew he was not an experienced player and could be doing this with AK10xdd, bottom set, but likely was underolled for the game and wanted to protect with top set. I fold, and he gets it in again with QQ against a combo draw, of course J on turn and I pound my chips in disgust. In retrospect it was probably the right fold, I don't know. I did start talking with him a lot about the game, including the hand he was drawing thin on.

“I had an open ender and a flush draw, what could I do?” He proclaimed, and I realized he needed some help. Between them, Mike, Tim, and a few others, I had gathered up a decent group of poker players that was now my life. I had managed to sell the entire nursery and was living off just the poker profits. I binked a few tournaments, including busting Dave on the bubble of a $120 with AA vs JJ and he was in disgust. I had a feeling he was not rolled for these and once I got to know them, I realized they were up and coming in the poker world. Dave is now playing $1k-10k buyins and is holding his own, he has come a long way.

In May I had been talking to a girl who I met at the front desk at a resort out on one of the barrier islands. Her name was Jenny and she might have been one of the funniest people I have ever met. I offered to take her out to a local hangout by the water one night, and was goofy enough to wear a fedora to the date. With a mostly shaved head I actually didn't look bad, and I managed to impress her, though she seemed hesitant to hook up the first night we met. She seemed to get a little sloppy drunk and we went to Dennys where she ate a ****load of food and professed that she and her ex still lived together, but he was getting deployed soon. Ah, very nice, that was just a recipe for disaster, but of course I tried even harder. We would hang out a lot at local bars, go to adult trivia, and would always end up at her house buzzed in the early morning. I'm sure if I was a little more aggressive it wouldn't have been a problem, but she was usually pretty drunk and I didn't feel so inclined. That was until one night where we closed down a local bar, then bought a bottle to go out to the beach with. We were drinking quite a bit and next thing I knew I was going to have to sleep in my car again. She started getting really touchy feeling and we ended up getting it on right there on the public beach. By 530am, I was ready to go home, and I didn't know the area well and she had lost her way too. I finally jumped a few yards and found my car, took her home, and felt bad, as if that wasn't supposed to happen. It turned out we both felt that way, and decided to be friends, but continued to hang out regularly despite the awkward hookup. I figured it wasn't a big deal, and could always happen again down the road if things were favorable. I got a call from her a week later, she was very upset and couldn't stop crying.

“Liam, I need you to come over here. Brian is moving out and I just need someone here.” I had no idea what I was getting into.
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04-06-2017 , 09:35 PM
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I had no idea what I was getting into.
It's called a vagina, young man.
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04-12-2017 , 12:26 PM
2013 Part 2 - Chasing Sherri

In June, when Jenny had asked me to move in with her, I really should have known better. Any phone call I got after work from her was in a various state of inebriation, with after midnight being the worst. She would sound extremely depressed after that time, alluding to hurting herself, taking pills, it was very nerve racking at times. She did, however, have a nice two bed, two bathroom apartment near downtown and the rent was only $1000 a month split in half, perfect for me, myself and I. It was one of those places where you don't feel downtown, but you walk a few blocks and suddenly there's large buildings and the Gulf of Mexico in clear view. I brought my essentials – clothes, TV, personal hygiene.. I left all my valuables at my mother's rental house because I had no need for it, and felt this wasn't going to be a long term thing. In the beginning I didn't feel comfortable leaving much there I cared about, but she was working so much I realized she just wanted some company when she got home. This turned out to be a problem, because the local cardroom was less than a 10 minute drive, and she would get off work at 5 and head straight to the local bar and start downing the vodka/cranberries for happy hour. I would make sure by 5pm I was showered, dressed, and on my way to play poker. Tim now started getting rides over to my place and I would take him home at night because I was his only ride. He would even take the bus once in a while when he couldn't get a ride to me, and the look on his face as I picked him up was utter disgust. I would feel humbled as well if I were once a millionaire and was now bumming rides on the metro bus that was usually reserved for bums, kids, and DUI specialists. During this time, I became closer to a number of people in poker.

Sherri was a woman right around 40 who played at the cardroom regularly, and up until this time we had just known each other in passing. Sherri was a regular at the cardroom but by no means a professional. She was a 1-2 player that would buy in for $100 and would keep the Vodka/grapefruits coming to the table, usually dwindling down a few buyins and then making somewhat of a comeback. She used to work as a regional manager for a franchise restaurant, but at some point around 10 years ago, she was terminated for what appeared to be discrimination. See, Sherri didn't have an interest in men that way, and had a “wife” for many years until they broke up over her wife's alcohol abuse. Because of her sexual orientation, being somewhat attractive, and one of the few regular women at the cardroom, she had a bullseye on her back from the many 1-2 regs that thought she was open game. Most of these guys were creepy mouth breathers with some money, but a few were real cheeky with their way of trying to woo her. They offered to teach her how to sail, deep sea fish, anything they could do to get her on their boat or in their car. I had no real intentions of trying to go after her – she was toasted half the time, and I didn't see the purpose of the challenge when so many girls in the area were a much easier catch and more my age. One slow night in June we were seated across the table from one another and on an AA10A5 board she overbet $90 into a $75 pot on the river and got me to fold 99 because I profiled her as a player that never bluffed. She flipped over KQ for the missed gutter and was a little bit celebratory with another lady friend at a nearby table. Her friend took her aside for a few minutes, and when I went out to smoke, she followed me and got my attention outside.

“Hey, I'm sorry I showed you that bluff. My friend told me you are basically the nicest guy in the room and I didn't want any hard feelings.”

“It's all part of the game – I would rather you show me that hand than quads or a 10, because I know the game is out of the muck.” She didn't understand what that meant and I had to explain in quite some detail.

“How about we get up out of here and go to Derby? They're running a high hand promotion, you only need one in your hand to get paid. I mean, you're not a serial killer or anything?” I laughed and told her we could take my car. As I walked down to valet, who had given my keys because they leave early, she saw the Veloster and wasn't impressed. “How about my car? You can drive, I've had a few drinks, I just want the wind in my hair.” We walked over to the preferred lot and she threw me her keys which said Audi on them. I love Audis but could never justify the price considering they were prone to expensive breakdowns as they got older. She had walked to the side of a silver Audi TT convertible, and already had the top down by the time I had gotten the car turned on and ready to roll. It was manual and handled like it was on rails, there was nothing quite like downshifting on the upgrade on the Skyway bridge and coming over the top, sailing down the grade at around 100mph. Fifteen minutes later, we were at Derby, and she got into a 1/1 game, and I found a shorthanded 5/10 PLO game was a good choice at the moment. I bought in for 1k and lost a buyin in 15 minutes getting it in preflop with double suited KKQJ against some drunk guy who flopped a set of tens on an A103 flop which gave me the nut flush draw. I chipped down a bit in my next buy in and my game broke. Most people would chase losses at this point, but the 2/5 game was locked down, and I wasn't going to get even playing 1-3, even late at night at Derby where stacks can get over 2k.

Around 2, we headed back south and it was clear Sherri had a few more drinks, she was telling me some bad beat story at 1/1 and couldn't remember the details. Out of nowhere, she put her hand on my arm and was methodically running her hand back and forth on it.

“I know this is weird, but you have really long arm hair, would you let me shave it?” I was not expecting that question.

“Right now?” I had never shaved my arms, and really wasn't interested, but I wanted to see where this was going.

“No, sometime soon though. I really want to shave your arms.”

“Just my arms?”

“Yes, you have beautiful blond hair, I like shaving blond hair.” I tried to keep from laughing, as I found it funny, even though it had some creepy undertones to it. By 3am, we were back to the local cardroom and I picked up my car and told her to drive safe. She had a personal breathalyzer and she registered .06 so I figured at least she wasn't wasted. I came home and went out to the porch for a cigarette where I found Jenny slumped in her chair with a cigarette burning in the ashtray and an almost gone empty bottle of Burnett's Orange vodka sitting on the table. Despite downing a good chunk of this bottle, Jenny was still very lucid and by no means passing out.

“Where have you been?” She asked with a tone that sounded like she was entitled to know where I was, at the time it caught me a little off guard.

“I've been playing poker, why what's up? Don't you have work tomorrow?” She proceeded to ignore the work question.

“I don't want to go to sleep alone, will you come stay in my bed with me?” After some pleading, I agreed to come stay in the bed with the intention of getting out once I heard she was asleep. The problem was, she didn't want to go to sleep. I could feel her arm reaching under the covers and down my boxers, trying to get me aroused. She didn't want me there to feel safe, she wanted someone to fool around with. Since I wasn't in a relationship and was getting in the mood, I took her up on the unspoken offer, but afterward, I did go back to my bed. We were roommates, and I had to try and keep it separated as possible. I didn't know if she just wanted someone, or really had second thoughts on her whole friendship idea. I moved in for the nicer place and the freedom – I didn't move in because Jenny and I were together. I had thoughts of moving out, but the location was just too nice, and maybe this wasn't the worst thing in the world after all. She did manage to make me forget I lost 1500 playing PLO in an hour or so, so I saw that as a benefit, but how much of a liability was she going to be?
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04-12-2017 , 12:36 PM
Hi, i'm sctive on a few forums here, but i haven't looked at them since finding this one about a week ago.

Thanks for sharing! Great job on writing. The style keeps the stories fresh snd engaging. I look forward to more.

Now to hunt down warmdeck's thread which i hadn't heard of before this thread....
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04-12-2017 , 12:58 PM
"...the game is out of the muck". What does that mean?
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04-12-2017 , 01:09 PM
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"...the game is out of the muck". What does that mean?
I believe that means the game has gotten less nitty / tight.
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04-12-2017 , 02:22 PM
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"...the game is out of the muck". What does that mean?
This is slang (probably just used in the US?) that relates to a game that has been very tight/nitty like Biggle said, and the dynamics change so that players open up. Usually this is caused by an event such as someone showing a bluff you would never expect, verbal sparring, a bad beat that causes tilt, but sometimes something as simple as straddling every hand can rile the players to become more active. Nothing is worse than a nitty game - it is always +EV to either get the game out of the muck, or get out of the game.
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04-13-2017 , 06:54 PM
Really loving these stories. As a foreigner, we read and hear quite a bit about the bad areas of the like's of Detroit, Baltimore, New York, Boston and LA but Florida kinda slips under the radar so it's been really interesting to read a first hand account of that area of the US.
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04-13-2017 , 07:49 PM
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