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Old 11-30-2005, 05:23 PM   #51
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

all that you ever say is that everyone is a "moran" or that they suck...then why are you giving them the time of day? why are you wasting your breath...you're obviously very very upset over this arguement...let it go. What is wrong with you? just let it go
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:06 PM   #52
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I'm sick and tired of this "OMG I GOT BAD BEAT, I HAD A POCKET PAIR AND ALL YOU HAD WAS OVERCARDS!"

Preflop, a pocket pair only has 2 outs to improve,overcards have 6! (This is not even taking into account straight and flush draws!) That means overcards are at least a 3:1 favorite to improve and win the hand. So stop whining morans.
Morans, I think thats a city in Michigan
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:39 PM   #53
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hmm..yeah it is
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:54 PM   #54
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The pocket pair is a about a 55% favorite to win the hand. I agree that a pair losing to overcards is not a bad beat, but it is a small favorite nonetheless.
The overcards are 75% to win you [censored] idiot. How can people be soo ******ed. Did you even read my post? Can you reduce fractions?
Your pulling our leg, right
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Old 11-30-2005, 08:08 PM   #55
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moron is spelled with two o's...moron...you moron
Mooran?
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:26 AM   #56
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I'm sick and tired of this "OMG I GOT BAD BEAT, I HAD A POCKET PAIR AND ALL YOU HAD WAS OVERCARDS!"

Preflop, a pocket pair only has 2 outs to improve,overcards have 6! (This is not even taking into account straight and flush draws!) That means overcards are at least a 3:1 favorite to improve and win the hand. So stop whining morans.

Actually you're more like 4:1 cause of the chance that someone else at the table already folded one of the pair's outs!!!!
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Old 12-01-2005, 03:51 AM   #57
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

i was having a rough night (i love that i can post whines here and noone cares) but after reading this thread and nearly dying laughing I think I can handle it again.

Thank you so very much. I <3 this forum.

Oh ya, you forgot that overcards have more cards to make straights with. A PP can only use the 1 card, while overs can use 2.

I'll fix your math:

Overcards: 6 outs to improve x 2 straights = 12
PP : 2outs to improve X1 staright x2flushes = 4

Overs are 3:1 favorite. Your math was wrong.

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Old 12-01-2005, 10:40 AM   #58
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The pocket pair is a about a 55% favorite to win the hand. I agree that a pair losing to overcards is not a bad beat, but it is a small favorite nonetheless.
The overcards are 75% to win you [censored] idiot. How can people be soo ******ed. Did you even read my post? Can you reduce fractions?
You're right and every poker calculator on earth that calculates these statistics is wrong. The experts that run this forum are wrong too, seeing how these stats are published in their books. The geniuses on the probability forum are also wrong. In fact, we're all wrong and morans (learn to spell, MORON!) and you're the only person here that knows how to play poker. Your 1600 posts clearly indicates that.

Or perhaps it just means you can type....
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:58 AM   #59
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

This is not funny. Not at all.
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:32 PM   #60
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People with less than 50 posts shouldn't be allowed to post, theyr'e always so dumb.
If people with less than 50 posts aren't allowed to post, how will they ever get more than 50 posts?
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:42 PM   #61
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:47 PM   #62
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You're right and every poker calculator on earth that calculates these statistics is wrong. The experts that run this forum are wrong too, seeing how these stats are published in their books. The geniuses on the probability forum are also wrong. In fact, we're all wrong and morans (learn to spell, MORON!) and you're the only person here that knows how to play poker. Your 1600 posts clearly indicates that.

Or perhaps it just means you can type....
Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any better.

Or maybe he's being level 2 sarcastic. :mind****:
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:07 PM   #63
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I must not get dragged into a wind-up thread, I must not get dragged into a wind-up thread, I must not get dragged into a wind-up thread, I must not get dragged into a wind-up thread, I must not get dragged into a wind-up thread, I must not get dragged into a wind-up thread.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:20 PM   #64
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

I love this site. We can all read and respond to questions and thoughts that oftentimes have no resolution. Arguing about whether getting beat with 8-8 by two overcards is truly a "bad beat" is like trying to get everyone to agree on the BCS fiasco in college football. I hope there's never a resolution, because that wopuld ruin much of the fun. By the way, I agree that the pair is only about a 53% to 47% favorite -vs- two overcards, meaning in no way can this be called a bad beat.
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Old 12-01-2005, 02:47 PM   #65
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KQ needs 2 cards to improve. If it hits one of its outs, it's still an underdog to aces. A pair of aces is better than a pair of kings or queens.

The lower the pocket pair, the better possibility that overcards will flop. Petriv's Holdem Odds Book has the odds of overcards hitting the flop for any pocket pair on page 99.
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:11 PM   #66
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KQ needs 2 cards to improve. If it hits one of its outs, it's still an underdog to aces. A pair of aces is better than a pair of kings or queens.

The lower the pocket pair, the better possibility that overcards will flop. Petriv's Holdem Odds Book has the odds of overcards hitting the flop for any pocket pair on page 99.
Dude, quit being such a moran.

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Old 12-01-2005, 04:53 PM   #67
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The best part of this thread is where the noobs try to respond with their faulty logic. [censored] noobs.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:54 PM   #68
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:56 PM   #69
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Old 12-01-2005, 06:02 PM   #70
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Your problem is that you are reading crap like this. Read a 2+2 book and maybe you can understand my math, moran.

I recommend this one:


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Old 12-01-2005, 06:17 PM   #71
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:03 PM   #72
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Your problem is that you are reading crap like this. Read a 2+2 book and maybe you can understand my math, moran.

I recommend this one:


priceless, especially the ' Bluff call '

Tim

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Old 12-01-2005, 10:34 PM   #73
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OMG I HAVE LIKE 1600 POSTS AND YOU HAVE 70, STFU NOOB.
Good God, its posters like you that make this site unbearable sometimes.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:49 PM   #74
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Don't you know Post Count = Poker Skill?

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Old 12-04-2005, 03:47 PM   #75
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OMG I HAVE LIKE 1600 POSTS AND YOU HAVE 70, STFU NOOB.
Good God, its posters like you that make this site unbearable sometimes.
Good God, the inability of some people to detect ridiculously over the top sarcasm makes this site hilarious sometimes.
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