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Old 11-29-2007, 12:11 AM   #351
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!1!!1

zomg rlyyyyy?
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:17 AM   #352
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I am in awe of the purity of this post, even on its second anniversary.

Where DID he get weed that good ?
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:43 AM   #353
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i just realized this isnt hsp jman.

yes it is...
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:01 AM   #354
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ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG THIS THREAD IS MISSING ALL OF ITS REPLIES ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:55 PM   #355
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Im disappointed i read this thread
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:58 PM   #356
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ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG THIS THREAD IS MISSING ALL OF ITS REPLIES ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG


Oh ****. Seriously, this sucksssssssssss!! This is my favorite 2p2 thread of all time . . .
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:00 PM   #357
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:03 PM   #358
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imo every 3 months all replies to this thread should be deleted and it should be bumped.

ftw.
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:04 PM   #359
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Oh ****. Seriously, this sucksssssssssss!! This is my favorite 2p2 thread of all time . . .
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:11 PM   #360
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Lol, Moran.

Let's take a very simple example:

You have J/10, I have QQ. There are 2 cards in the deck that make my hand better (ignoring straights and flushes for the moment). Those two cards are the remaining two queens. Therefore I have 2, read them, TWO outs. There are six cards that improve the J/10 hand. the remaining three jacks and the remaining three tens. Therefor you have six, read it SIX outs to improve. I'd really like to hear your justification for how the remaining 40 some odd cards improve your hand. A flop of seven, deuce, ace does not improve a pair of queens.
LDO

I read this in TOP.
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:17 PM   #361
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:23 PM   #362
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jman, i have a problem with your theory.

After i've read your posts and understood how right you
are, i applied it to my play. You know, folding Aces preflop
if someone pushes...

Guess what happend? My ROI dropped about 20%!

I was very confused, so i used a week of vacation
to go trough my poker tracker DB and i've counted all times
i was allin against AA with two undercards.

It seems like i've lost about 80% of these!

Could this be explained by variance? It was just a small sample,
say, 20 k hands.

HLP PLZ!!!
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:25 PM   #363
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jman, i have a problem with your theory.

After i've read your posts and understood how right you
are, i applied it to my play. You know, folding Aces preflop
if someone pushes...

Guess what happend? My balls dropped about 20cm!

I was very confused, so i used a week of vacation
to go trough my poker tracker DB and i've counted all times
i was allin against AA with two undercards.

It seems like i've lost about 80% of these!

Could this be explained by variance? It was just a small sample,
say, 20 k hands.

HLP PLZ!!!


imo
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:38 PM   #364
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What is balls?
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Old 12-10-2007, 07:06 PM   #365
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I'm truly amazed by all the guys who don't get that 6:2 = 3:1.

Also great thanks for bumping this again and again, else, I'd have missed it. Great read.
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Old 12-15-2007, 12:27 AM   #366
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<3 this thread so much
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Old 12-15-2007, 12:50 PM   #367
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this thread

At all people who think pairs a teh favorite: do teh maths morans, and gtfo bbv
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Old 01-06-2008, 02:09 PM   #368
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jman, i have a problem with your theory.

After i've read your posts and understood how right you
are, i applied it to my play. You know, folding Aces preflop
if someone pushes...

Guess what happend? My ROI dropped about 20%!

I was very confused, so i used a week of vacation
to go trough my poker tracker DB and i've counted all times
i was allin against AA with two undercards.

It seems like i've lost about 80% of these!

Could this be explained by variance? It was just a small sample,
say, 20 k hands.

HLP PLZ!!!
Variance can't explain results that far from your expectation. It sounds to me like you have some major post-flop leaks.
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Old 01-06-2008, 03:21 PM   #369
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lolol this thread never gets old
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:39 PM   #370
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lolol this thread never gets old
I agree, absolute gold. some of the funniest posts I've ever read.. God bless poker, and god bless jman
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:36 AM   #371
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Some of the people on 2p2 arent very sharp
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:53 PM   #372
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:36 PM   #373
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Thank You. I'm just so sick of the whining on these boards "Waah Waah, I lost with AA to KQ." KQ HAD SIX OUTS TO IMPROVE IDIOT, YOU ONLY HAD TWO!
At least I've learned something today. I thought AA vs KQ was a coinflip, like AA vs KK.
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Old 02-18-2008, 03:27 PM   #374
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Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $50.65
BB: $74.85 (no SB this hand)
realUTG: $69.95
UTG: $21.05
UTG+1: $43.75
MP1: $50.00
BUT_I_FEEL_SO_DIRTY (MP2): $62.55
CO: $55.75

Pre Flop: BUT_I_FEEL_SO_DIRTY is MP2 with Q Q
realUTG calls $0.50, UTG raises to $1, 2 folds, BUT_I_FEEL_SO_DIRTY raises to $3.75, 3 folds, realUTG raises to $6.50, UTG calls $5.50, BUT_I_FEEL_SO_DIRTY calls $2.75

Flop: ($20.00) 6 4 3 (3 players)
realUTG bets $63.45 all in, UTG folds, BUT_I_FEEL_SO_DIRTY and fold
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Old 02-18-2008, 03:43 PM   #375
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Thank you very much. Now I understand I am not running bad right now. I am going in dominated I will change my strategy. Gee's those guys were trying to tell me how I was dominated too. Now I understand. KQ sooooooted had my AK I should have not pushed and when he called I should have seen I was beaten before the flop. Then the 2nd when KJ soooted beat my AK sooooted. Thank you for clearing this up. This is making me feel so much better about my self. I realize I suck at poker now and will get back to studying.
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