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Old 06-03-2007, 11:09 PM   #226
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Somehow after missing this thread for almost 2 years and spending 20 minutes reading it.... i still dont know whether to laugh or cry!

OP is hands down either the stupidest or most brilliant person ever. That is, if he is kidding and is really just 3rd leveling all of us, then this is the biggest ownage ever. If he is serious, then all I can say is YSSCKY.

OP, in case you are serious can you please recommend a good line for a situation I commonly face?

Basically, lets say I hold 7c7s and my opponent holds 45d. Usually the flop is something like

2d2s7d

My question is should I fold here if he pushes all in since he has 9 outs to improve and I only have 3? It would appear that I am a 3:1 dog, so folding here is clearly the correct play right?
Are you seriously asking whether or not you should fold a full house on the flop? You're a moran. Even 2/7 offsuit can get lucky on the flop, that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't overplay your 77 preflop because you're in bad shape against 4/5 suited. Maybe you like getting your money in preflop with the worst of it, not me though, thats why I have made HUNDREDS of dollars playing poker.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:10 PM   #227
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hint: OP's BB is more than your bankroll
Wrong.
You know what they say about guys with big blinds.
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:18 PM   #228
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Still going . . .
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Old 06-03-2007, 11:19 PM   #229
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was op joking?
I never joke about poker.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:46 AM   #230
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

This is quite possibly the best thread ever...
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:14 AM   #231
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3:1 is the new coinflip
rigged
People who think online poker is rigged only do because they're too dense to realize that when their pocket pairs get "cracked," thats not a bad beat, they were in fact 3:1 dogs.

LOL this post made my day
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:04 AM   #232
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

wow. just saw this thread. just wow
OP is my hero. I would have never expected anyone to get levelled like this. I DEFNITELY think too high of people with 2k posts on this forum.

And on the other note - this thread should be DEFINATELY in Poker Theory as this is DEFNITELLY strategy thread, right?
I can see that OP placed it here just to get bigger crowd.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:16 AM   #233
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I can see that OP placed it here just to get bigger crowd.
When I posted this thread this forum had about ten regular members.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:20 AM   #234
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I can see that OP placed it here just to get bigger crowd.
When I posted this thread this forum had about ten regular members.
It was still bigger than poker theory.
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Old 06-09-2007, 01:26 AM   #235
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En Francais!
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Old 06-09-2007, 03:39 AM   #236
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

I gotta admit it took me a little too long to catch the sarcasm.

Still I was laughing for a half hour going through these old posts, thank you for the bump.
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:00 PM   #237
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

except when he has aces to your KQ you need to hit at least 2 of those outs ...
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:28 PM   #238
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except when he has aces to your KQ you need to hit at least 2 of those outs ...
Whats your point? KQ still has more outs than AA.
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:31 PM   #239
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Wait, I always thought it was OMGClayAiken that made this post. ALL THESE JMANS MAKE ME SO GOD DAMN MAD!
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:58 PM   #240
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OMG
When I first read the original post I labeled the OP an idiot and didn`t pay attention to who the poster was.
But now...
That is some amazing leveling right here.

Anyway thanks for helping me improve my game Jman
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:58 PM   #241
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Anyway thanks for helping me improve my game Jman

Thats what I'm here for.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:25 PM   #242
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that you need more then one out to improve...and the aces need none
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:26 PM   #243
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i dunno i always seem to do well with pocket pairs though.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:30 PM   #244
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that you need more then one out to improve...and the aces need none
Whats your screenname? Actually PM it so I dont get stuck in the waiting list.
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:17 PM   #245
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What if its four way and hands are AA, KQ, KQ, KQ, does KQ split the pot 50% of time? 1 K and 1 Q left in deck = 2 outs and 2 A's left in deck = 2. Both have 50% chance of hitting!?
Will you coach me? I want to learn the percentages
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:52 PM   #246
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that you need more then one out to improve...and the aces need none
But thats completely irrelevant. You determine how good your hand is by counting how many outs you have, and then converting those outs to a percentage of the time where you win, and then seeing if you're getting "pot odds." So, for example, If I have 2 spades in my hand and there are two on the board on the turn, then I have nine outs because there is a 9/46 chance that I will make my flush, so I need to be getting more than 46:9 on any money I put into the pot. The same concept applies to your pocket pairs. You only have two outs, so you'd better be getting 46:2 on your money or you're playing like a donk. With KQ, you've got 6 outs, so if your'e getting 46:6 on your money, then you're ok. Do you understand now noob?
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Old 06-20-2007, 09:21 AM   #247
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

oh now i see the light lol
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Old 06-20-2007, 04:11 PM   #248
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Jman should have the title "Socrates of Poker". your wisdom is never ending
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Old 06-20-2007, 04:23 PM   #249
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one time i was playing at the 10-20 in the bellagio when i raised AhQh on the button. the flop came KhJhTh!! i bet, my villian pushed. i pukeddd. i flipped my hand face up and folded. everyone stared in disbelief but the donkeys didn't know i was drawing dead to improve. that's the day i quit poker.
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Old 06-22-2007, 09:24 AM   #250
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one time i was playing at the 10-20 in the bellagio when i raised AhQh on the button. the flop came KhJhTh!! i bet, my villian pushed. i pukeddd. i flipped my hand face up and folded. everyone stared in disbelief but the donkeys didn't know i was drawing dead to improve. that's the day i quit poker.
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