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Old 11-29-2005, 06:54 PM   #1
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STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!1!!1

I'm sick and tired of this "OMG I GOT BAD BEAT, I HAD A POCKET PAIR AND ALL YOU HAD WAS OVERCARDS!"

Preflop, a pocket pair only has 2 outs to improve,overcards have 6! (This is not even taking into account straight and flush draws!) That means overcards are at least a 3:1 favorite to improve and win the hand. So stop whining morans.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:56 PM   #2
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That means overcards are at least a 3:1 favorite to improve and win the hand.
No. And this is not nearly as funny as Sponger's.
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Old 11-29-2005, 06:59 PM   #3
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That means overcards are at least a 3:1 favorite to improve and win the hand.
No. And this is not nearly as funny as Sponger's.
DO THE MATH MORAN! POCKET PAIR OUTS: 2. OVERCARD OUTS: 6. 2:6=1:3. OVERCARDS ARE A 3:1 FAVORITE.

You must really suck at poker.
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:02 PM   #4
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That means overcards are at least a 3:1 favorite to improve and win the hand.
No. And this is not nearly as funny as Sponger's.
DO THE MATH MORAN! POCKET PAIR OUTS: 2. OVERCARD OUTS: 6. 2:6=1:3. OVERCARDS ARE A 3:1 FAVORITE.

You must really suck at poker.
lol I hope you understand the error in your logic...

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Old 11-29-2005, 07:07 PM   #5
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NOOOO AKs has only one suit, hence can only make one type of flush, therefore pocket pair has double the flush outs, 11 for AK , whereas 7 7 has 12 s and 12 s to catch!!!

pocket pairs are big favouritessss
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:09 PM   #6
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That means overcards are at least a 3:1 favorite to improve and win the hand.
No. And this is not nearly as funny as Sponger's.
DO THE MATH MORAN! POCKET PAIR OUTS: 2. OVERCARD OUTS: 6. 2:6=1:3. OVERCARDS ARE A 3:1 FAVORITE.

You must really suck at poker.
lol I hope you understand the error in your logic...

You'll need a couple of promotions to get to azz clown status, moran.
I don't know how you are this dumb. This is like first grade arithmetic, reducing fractions. Seriously, you just lost all credibility on these forums. Please tell me your name on Party Poker so I can add you to my buddy list.
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:10 PM   #7
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NOOOO AKs has only one suit, hence can only make one type of flush, therefore pocket pair has double the flush outs, 11 for AK , whereas 7 7 has 12 s and 12 s to catch!!!

pocket pairs are big favouritessss
You're not properly discounting outs in the fact that pocket pairs need runner/runner to make their flush. And I was talking about unsuited as well as suited overcards, moran.
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:24 PM   #8
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This is the best thread ever.
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:27 PM   #9
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This is the best thread ever.
Thank You. I'm just so sick of the whining on these boards "Waah Waah, I lost with AA to KQ." KQ HAD SIX OUTS TO IMPROVE IDIOT, YOU ONLY HAD TWO!
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:31 PM   #10
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This is the best thread ever.
Thank You. I'm just so sick of the whining on these boards "Waah Waah, I lost with AA to KQ." KQ HAD SIX OUTS TO IMPROVE IDIOT, YOU ONLY HAD TWO!
Yeah, I hate suckers who whine
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:44 PM   #11
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tl;dr
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Old 11-29-2005, 07:46 PM   #12
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:12 PM   #13
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You say 3:1 fav to improve for overcards -- haven't you ignored the fact that the pocket pair doesn't have to improve to win or is this thread a joke? It seems like all the threads under this topic have some underlying sarcasm to them...
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:23 PM   #14
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You say 3:1 fav to improve for overcards -- haven't you ignored the fact that the pocket pair doesn't have to improve to win or is this thread a joke? It seems like all the threads under this topic have some underlying sarcasm to them...
I was about to ask the same thing... I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:23 PM   #15
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It seems like all the threads in this forum have some underlying sarcasm to them...
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:27 PM   #16
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You say 3:1 fav to improve for overcards -- haven't you ignored the fact that the pocket pair doesn't have to improve to win or is this thread a joke? It seems like all the threads under this topic have some underlying sarcasm to them...
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:30 PM   #17
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You say 3:1 fav to improve for overcards -- haven't you ignored the fact that the pocket pair doesn't have to improve to win or is this thread a joke? It seems like all the threads under this topic have some underlying sarcasm to them...

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Old 11-29-2005, 08:32 PM   #18
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You say 3:1 fav to improve for overcards -- haven't you ignored the fact that the pocket pair doesn't have to improve to win or is this thread a joke? It seems like all the threads under this topic have some underlying sarcasm to them...
You're an idiot. You clearly don't understand meta-game concepts like the ones described by my thread. OMG I HAVE LIKE 1600 POSTS AND YOU HAVE 70, STFU NOOB.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:34 PM   #19
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You say 3:1 fav to improve for overcards -- haven't you ignored the fact that the pocket pair doesn't have to improve to win or is this thread a joke? It seems like all the threads under this topic have some underlying sarcasm to them...
I was about to ask the same thing... I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
If you can't understand the simple math in this thread then you should definitely cry, and go back to first grade. People with less than 50 posts shouldn't be allowed to post, theyr'e always so dumb.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:43 PM   #20
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Re: STOP OVERPLAYING POCKET PAIRS AND WHINING WHEN YOU LOSE WITH THEM!

dude ....think i overplayed this?? WTF THIS IS THE STORY OF MY MTT LIFE

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t20437)
MP1 (t7176)
MP2 (t12135)
MP3 (t4580)
CO (t19384)
Hero (t5000)
SB (t14085)
BB (t7280)
UTG (t11083)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t150, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t300, MP3 raises to t600, CO calls t600, Hero raises to t5000, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t3980 (All-In), CO calls t4400.

Flop: (t15255) Q, 7, Q (3 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t15255) 8 (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t15255) 9 (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t15255

Results in white below:
MP3 has Kh Kd (flush, king high).
CO has 4c 4h (two pair, queens and fours).
Hero has As Ah (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: MP3 wins t14415. Hero wins t840.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:48 PM   #21
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This would be much better if CO had the 4d instead. He is a real man of genius.
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:15 PM   #22
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Hey idiot, the difference is with a pocket pair, you don't have to improve.
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:22 PM   #23
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Hey idiot, the difference is with a pocket pair, you don't have to improve.
Hey Idiot, how is that at all relevant to the fact that because overcards have more outs they are a 3:1 favorite? You determine odds by calculating your outs moran.
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:29 PM   #24
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The pocket pair is a about a 55% favorite to win the hand. I agree that a pair losing to overcards is not a bad beat, but it is a small favorite nonetheless.
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:37 PM   #25
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The pocket pair is a about a 55% favorite to win the hand. I agree that a pair losing to overcards is not a bad beat, but it is a small favorite nonetheless.
The overcards are 75% to win you [censored] idiot. How can people be soo ******ed. Did you even read my post? Can you reduce fractions?
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