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11-29-2007 , 12:11 AM

#351

JokersAttack

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zomg rlyyyyy?

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11-29-2007 , 12:17 AM

#352

Mr Sarcastic

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I am in awe of the purity of this post, even on its second anniversary.

Where DID he get weed that good ?

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11-29-2007 , 12:43 AM

#353

PugsMcGee

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i just realized this isnt hsp jman.

yes it is...

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12-07-2007 , 01:01 AM

#354

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG THIS THREAD IS MISSING ALL OF ITS REPLIES ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG

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12-07-2007 , 01:55 PM

#355

goblue2k6

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Im disappointed i read this thread

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12-07-2007 , 01:58 PM

#356

yabastid

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Originally Posted by jman220

ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG THIS THREAD IS MISSING ALL OF ITS REPLIES ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG

Oh ****. Seriously, this sucksssssssssss!! This is my favorite 2p2 thread of all time . . .

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12-07-2007 , 02:00 PM

#357

lsaw2

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Originally Posted by goblue2k6

Im disappointed i read this thread

You have no clue.........

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12-07-2007 , 02:03 PM

#358

dlorc

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imo every 3 months all replies to this thread should be deleted and it should be bumped.

ftw.

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12-07-2007 , 02:04 PM

#359

Mrage

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Originally Posted by yabastid

Oh ****. Seriously, this sucksssssssssss!! This is my favorite 2p2 thread of all time . . .

sigh

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12-07-2007 , 02:11 PM

#360

orensi

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Originally Posted by jman220

Lol, Moran.

Let's take a very simple example:

You have J/10, I have QQ. There are 2 cards in the deck that make my hand better (ignoring straights and flushes for the moment). Those two cards are the remaining two queens. Therefore I have 2, read them, TWO outs. There are six cards that improve the J/10 hand. the remaining three jacks and the remaining three tens. Therefor you have six, read it SIX outs to improve. I'd really like to hear your justification for how the remaining 40 some odd cards improve your hand. A flop of seven, deuce, ace does not improve a pair of queens.

LDO

I read this in TOP.

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12-07-2007 , 02:17 PM

#361

Steroid Boy

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linked for it's greatness

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ge=4&fpart=all

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12-10-2007 , 01:23 PM

#362

Anton Narki

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jman, i have a problem with your theory.

After i've read your posts and understood how right you
are, i applied it to my play. You know, folding Aces preflop
if someone pushes...

Guess what happend? My ROI dropped about 20%!

I was very confused, so i used a week of vacation
to go trough my poker tracker DB and i've counted all times
i was allin against AA with two undercards.

It seems like i've lost about 80% of these!

Could this be explained by variance? It was just a small sample,
say, 20 k hands.

HLP PLZ!!!

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12-10-2007 , 01:25 PM

#363

KamiKatze

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Originally Posted by Anton Narki

jman, i have a problem with your theory.

After i've read your posts and understood how right you
are, i applied it to my play. You know, folding Aces preflop
if someone pushes...

Guess what happend? My balls dropped about 20cm!

I was very confused, so i used a week of vacation
to go trough my poker tracker DB and i've counted all times
i was allin against AA with two undercards.

It seems like i've lost about 80% of these!

Could this be explained by variance? It was just a small sample,
say, 20 k hands.

HLP PLZ!!!

imo

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12-10-2007 , 05:38 PM

#364

Anton Narki

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What is balls?

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12-10-2007 , 07:06 PM

#365

dergitarrist

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I'm truly amazed by all the guys who don't get that 6:2 = 3:1.

Also great thanks for bumping this again and again, else, I'd have missed it. Great read.

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12-15-2007 , 12:27 AM

#366

shipitkthx

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<3 this thread so much

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12-15-2007 , 12:50 PM

#367

coldi

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this thread

At all people who think pairs a teh favorite: do teh maths morans, and gtfo bbv

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01-06-2008 , 02:09 PM

#368

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Originally Posted by Anton Narki

Variance can't explain results that far from your expectation. It sounds to me like you have some major post-flop leaks.

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01-06-2008 , 03:21 PM

#369

Jer672

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lolol this thread never gets old

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01-14-2008 , 08:39 PM

#370

kaisersosay

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Originally Posted by Jer672

lolol this thread never gets old

I agree, absolute gold. some of the funniest posts I've ever read.. God bless poker, and god bless jman

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01-15-2008 , 12:36 AM

#371

goblue2k6

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Some of the people on 2p2 arent very sharp

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02-18-2008 , 12:53 PM

#372

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Originally Posted by goblue2k6

Some of the people on 2p2 arent very sharp

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02-18-2008 , 01:36 PM

#373

np_malcolm

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Originally Posted by jman220

Thank You. I'm just so sick of the whining on these boards "Waah Waah, I lost with AA to KQ." KQ HAD SIX OUTS TO IMPROVE IDIOT, YOU ONLY HAD TWO!

At least I've learned something today. I thought AA vs KQ was a coinflip, like AA vs KK.

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02-18-2008 , 03:27 PM

#374

flight2q

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Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $50.65
BB: $74.85 (no SB this hand)
realUTG: $69.95
UTG: $21.05
UTG+1: $43.75
MP1: $50.00
BUT_I_FEEL_SO_DIRTY (MP2): $62.55
CO: $55.75

Pre Flop: BUT_I_FEEL_SO_DIRTY is MP2 with Q

realUTG calls $0.50, UTG raises to $1, 2 folds, BUT_I_FEEL_SO_DIRTY raises to $3.75, 3 folds, realUTG raises to $6.50, UTG calls $5.50, BUT_I_FEEL_SO_DIRTY calls $2.75

Flop: ($20.00) 6

(3 players)
realUTG bets $63.45 all in, UTG folds, BUT_I_FEEL_SO_DIRTY and fold

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02-18-2008 , 03:43 PM

#375

bacats32

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Thank you very much. Now I understand I am not running bad right now. I am going in dominated I will change my strategy. Gee's those guys were trying to tell me how I was dominated too. Now I understand. KQ sooooooted had my AK I should have not pushed and when he called I should have seen I was beaten before the flop. Then the 2nd when KJ soooted beat my AK sooooted. Thank you for clearing this up. This is making me feel so much better about my self. I realize I suck at poker now and will get back to studying.

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