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09-22-2010 , 06:05 AM
I am Sol Reader aka "roseeker" aka "nostalgica".

I have decided, since the scandal, to stay away from 2+2 and suffer my own folly in silence. Having requested a perma ban, I created this account to post a quick follow up.

Following the episode, I have taken time to deal with the various problems in my life, my depression, my education, my downswing, and my personal reflection, and I feel that I have recovered adequately.

In my mind, I have been punished adequately for my crimes. I have lost money in the ordeal though I did not stand to really win any. I have lost my account, with supernova status and VPPs/FPPs. I had lost money lent, staked, or promised by people who used this scandal as an excuse to not pay me. I have suffered emotionally. I have lost all credibility and do not hope to regain it. I have lost friends.

I had no intentions of causing serious harm to any body, and was in no position to do so at any point. My crime was one of greed, not malice, and I feel that the punishments I received were adequate. Some do not agree.

I don't care. I'm not here to regain any semblance of reputation. I am not here to bargain with the lynch mob that is 2+2.

I did, however, say that I feel deeply regretful for what I had done, and would like to do something about it. I know that nobody really cares how much I supposedly lose unless some good comes of my suffering. As such I'd like to offer $1000 as "compensation" or whatever you want to call it.

I believe this punishment more than fair considering my relatively minor role in the scandal, and my non-monetary interest in it. Again, I am not here to bargain, I don't care if people think that I should pay 30k to some random people by some random logic by some random poster to whom this scandal doesn't even concern. I don't have that amount of money and even if I did I would not pay it. That would be stupid.

It is also my opinion that this money should NOT go to any of the participants of the prop bet, and instead be given to a charity of their collective choice. I would like them to make an agreement in this thread what to do with these funds. I will then send the money to an escrow appointed by said participants, and be gone.

I don't intend for this to buy back any trust with this act, and I will continue to stay away from 2+2.

To take a more cynical perspective, I guess doing this makes me feel a bit less guilty. Since some good will come to this, however, I hope nobody complains about this particular instance of "selfishness".

I cannot PM, so if jalexand42 or a mod can notify the participants, I'd appreciate it.

That is all. Have a nice day.
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09-22-2010 , 06:07 AM
no ****in way
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09-22-2010 , 06:07 AM
good for you
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09-22-2010 , 06:41 AM
send $100 of the 1k to Children's Cancer Fund of America and i'll forgive your sorry ass
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09-22-2010 , 06:43 AM
I would like to wait for an answer from the participants and send the money through an escrow, but I appreciate your input. Thank you.
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09-22-2010 , 06:43 AM
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09-22-2010 , 06:45 AM
just send the damn $, what's this escrow bs?
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09-22-2010 , 06:47 AM
There are multiple people involved, and I would like to wait for them to decide what to do with the funds. I do not know their SNs either, or how to split it. I do not understand your hurry.

I am not sure how/where to donate either as I don't have a credit card, so it'd actually make a lot of sense if I send it to someone trustworthy who can help transfer these funds.
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09-22-2010 , 06:58 AM
[ ] Ro has learned to leave well enough alone
[x] Ro has to tell the world about it before donating to charity
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09-22-2010 , 07:00 AM
Narcissism that benefits the needy is not so bad.
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09-22-2010 , 07:01 AM
cool
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09-22-2010 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
Narcissism that benefits the needy is not so bad.
Charity getting money is never a bad thing. I think you're creative enough you could have pulled this off without making a thread about it.

But whatever, I'll let you do your thing without making posts like this that you'll feel the need to reply to and derail your thread

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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
Really, let's just get over how terrible a person I am okay? I think we can agree this is a step forward, anyway, and as I have no intent on staying after this, you can complain about my terrible character or personality all you like, but I am going to stop responding to those. As I'd said, I don't care.
I don't think you're a terrible person, I think you're a guy who made a massive mistake, who now goes to great lengths to try to tell everyone over and over that you are not a terrible person. The people here think you're scum for multiple reasons and I was suggesting you were wasting your time and money if you're attempting to appease them. They no longer care about you, so why bother?

Other people suggested when this initially broke that you just give up your persona and come back as someone else if you want to post here again. It was so that we wouldn't have to see a thread like this from you every two months. I know you like explaining things. I know you feel bad and want to apologize. We'll hear from you again in a few months.

Last edited by DRybes; 09-22-2010 at 07:48 AM.
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09-22-2010 , 07:29 AM
we all make mistakes, and there should be some way to regain some reputation. that´s a good start i guess.
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09-22-2010 , 07:40 AM
Actually, the initial reason I made this thread was for compensation that some feel we should pay. I merely suggest that it should be sent to a charity. I think it is fitting that those who are cheated against should have some say as to where the money goes. If they prefer to keep the money, it is their choice.

How, whether, what, and to whom I do to benefit charities on my OWN behalf is none of 2+2's business, and you imply that I don't do these things already. Well I definitely don't do as much as humanly possible for the benefit of the world, but who does? It's sort of moot to discuss how much charity each person does in private, as one can argue that charity, even in private, is mostly done to make the person doing it feel empowered, less guilty, and just overall better about themselves anyway..

While I say narcissism, I don't really believe that this thread is some attention whoring attempt. People were very angry at me, and while I don't think I should mind too much as long as I do my part in becoming a better person, this is my last attempt to do something about that, a final public apology. If people are still angry at me afterwards, then, oh well. Is that wrong?

There are a lot of people who are far more qualified to give away money, and as it is, I don't even have a job or much of a future, so I'm sorry if I care more about my own livelihood than others', especially those I cannot immediately relate to, and I'm sorry I haven't donated every penny I have and gone to some third world country for charity work yet.

I am a psychopath after all. Can't do no nuthin' bout that.

Really, let's just get over how terrible a person I am okay? I think we can agree this is a step forward, anyway, and as I have no intent on staying after this, you can complain about my terrible character or personality all you like, but I am going to stop responding to those. As I'd said, I don't care.

Just make a decision on what to do with the money, give me an sn for me to ship to, and I'm going to gtfo. Cool?

Anyway, sirs, have a nice day.
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09-22-2010 , 07:47 AM
just send a PM to Alobar or ToTheInternet asking for their SN, ship to them, they'll ship to a charity
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09-22-2010 , 07:49 AM
I can't PM. New account. That's partially why I am spamming posts, but I imagine one of them will have noticed this thread by then and all will be good.
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09-22-2010 , 07:50 AM
just make sure $100 atleast goes to the charity i said cause it's ballin
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09-22-2010 , 07:53 AM
I may be busy in the meantime with preparing for university, but I will check back in a day or two if there is no decision as to what I should do with the money.

Basically I'd like someone to contact the bettors, and for THEM to decide what to do with the money. If some wish not to donate to the charity, I will directly ship them their share. I would then like someone to be appointed for me to ship the rest of the money, and then sent a charity.

I know little about donating to charities, though I hear that not a lot of them are very effective at getting money to the needy, so I imagine some discussion as to which charities to donate to would be useful for this specific instance, as well as for anyone who wishes to make random donations.

Anyway, please make a decision, tell me where to send the money in this thread, and I will do it asap.

Thanks.

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just make sure $100 atleast goes to the charity i said cause it's ballin
That's cool. I'll donate $100 extra after I've sorted the compensation out. It's just money after all, I can afford that. Do you have a link/instructions as to how to donate?
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09-22-2010 , 07:55 AM
I just PMed Alobar and ToTheInternet for you with a link to this thread. While I do not in any way condone what you did, don't say I think you're a terrible person. Stop back in a few days, they'll take care of it when they can.
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09-22-2010 , 07:56 AM
lol, looks like he just bitched out anyways
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09-22-2010 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
I can't PM. New account. That's partially why I am spamming posts, but I imagine one of them will have noticed this thread by then and all will be good.
"My 2+2" > "Edit Options" > "[x] Receive Email from Other Members"

PM's instantly on.
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09-22-2010 , 08:53 AM
link to scandal? confuzzled itt

edit. saw in op. not v good at reading

Last edited by David123; 09-22-2010 at 08:59 AM.
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09-22-2010 , 04:25 PM
i think u have paid enuf for ur crime.

a one-time mistake while ur young and stupid doesnt equal a lifetime banishment. afaiac u dont need to disappear from the 2p2 community.

also this is terrible:
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I had lost money lent, staked, or promised by people who used this scandal as an excuse to not pay me.
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09-22-2010 , 07:06 PM
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It's just money after all, I can afford that.
Well it's good to know that money is no problem for you now, I was worried


****ing scumbag



p.s. you are a terrible person

Also I think it is ****ing hilarious that a guy who tried to rip off a forum of people comes back complaining about being ripped off. If you want sympathy you can find it in the dictionary, right between sh*t and syphillis
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09-22-2010 , 07:17 PM
man send it to lilly claires

i love that song from 2M2MM

we go by deuces cracked, they know who we are, online, phil jackson for ya poka cards

to let it rain on lilly claire
hey lily i really hope you ridin with me, cuz these -- red fours is guaranteed to connect
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