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09-29-2010 , 09:34 PM
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
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09-30-2010 , 01:26 AM
OP,

You are not normal or rational. Try to grow up a little.
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09-30-2010 , 10:01 AM
I find it funny how you can't help but lie...even now.

Your whole winning player thing.


Your advice was always a joke. Your a big looser looking for a mark.

GTFO!

GGK
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10-05-2010 , 02:37 AM
i don't know the particular details of this scandal, but there is no way that 1k can compensate for your wrongdoings. besides, i'm certain you have kept some proceeds even if it's not much (assuming any amount of money that has made its way to your pocket that is over 1k).

also, as habits are re-occurring, you obv have another account (if you are not playing elsewhere).

wouldn't take a criminologist to understand that my assumptions are right more often than not. curious, would you care to dispute/agree with my statement? comment, perhaps, on whether you did keep some proceeds or have another account?

also, i do agree that poverty stricken victims would be better off with the money than cancer patients, but i suppose it would be different to someone who has lost their parents or many around them due to cancer. i think the more important criteria as to choosing the appropriate charity would be a way to verify that the dollars have made a difference.
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10-06-2010 , 10:50 PM
I'm done yelling at him. He donated $1K to charity, confirmed by a trusted 3rd party. It's over. /thread.
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10-09-2010 , 04:52 PM
***EPILOGUE***

I received the following email from Sol Reader today. It is followed by my reply.
Hello.

I have gained the ability to PM, and will be contacting Jalex and the individuals regarding the charities, and in the meantime, I wanted to send you a message as you were quite interested in the thread.

I do not expect you to begin to trust me the slightest, but I was happy to see that you have accepted that I am , to some degree, I am trying to make up for what I had done.

I know you have had strong feelings about my flawed character, whether or not I can ever feel guilty or if I am a cold heartless person. I want to say that I do and I'm not. I'm an egomaniac, selfish person, sure, but it really hurt me to realize how stupid I was and how lonely it can be, and I really appreciate your sentiment, and I will try my best to keep out of everyones way, and, if I can, do more good for the world and people around me.

Only time will tell if I live up to what I say, and perhaps you will never know or even care, but if even a small chance is given, from someone who crucified me so, for me to try and set things right, then I would feel revitalized to change and better myself, and not get into a cycle of deceit.

I was not sarcastic then when I said I wish you all well, and I am not now. Have a nice day.
Thank you for the kind words.

I see you as a pyromaniac. Two Plus Two is the matches. Poker is the fire. Money is the gasoline. You need to avoid the first two and have a responsible third party help you use the third responsibly.

Therapy is an important treatment option you should explore to deal with your addictions and compulsions. The last site you should be visiting is Two Plus Two. The last thing you should be doing is gambling. I define gambling as all casino activities except poker, but also including poker if played irresponsibly (with intent to defraud, with money needed for other purposes, etc.).

The last time you played with fire, the trusting community of Two Plus Two got burned. Thanks only to Jalex's able use of a fire extinguisher, the community was saved from your fraud and attempts to cover it up. If you intend to continue in your compulsions (keep playing poker and/or gambling), then this community has the right to know all of your screen names, past and present, your full name, and your city of residence.

If you are sorry for anything, it would be interesting to hear for what, and to whom you think that apology should be directed.
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10-09-2010 , 05:10 PM
Why bump this, you're almost as bad as him.
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10-09-2010 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Klankster
Why bump this, you're almost as bad as him.
That's funny, I was going to ask you the same thing.
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10-12-2010 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by starrazz
***EPILOGUE***
You and your ego have no more part in this discussion than they ever have. No one cares what you think- there is no reason that anyone would consider your opinion to be more informed or relevant than any other random BBV poster. GTFO and develop a disturbing obsession with some other threads.
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10-12-2010 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian O'Nolan
You and your ego have no more part in this discussion than they ever have. No one cares what you think- there is no reason that anyone would consider your opinion to be more informed or relevant than any other random BBV poster. GTFO and develop a disturbing obsession with some other threads.
I dunno, I think he put the fear of Jalex and his fire extinguisher of justice into cheaters hearts
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10-12-2010 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian O'Nolan
You and your ego have no more part in this discussion than they ever have. No one cares what you think- there is no reason that anyone would consider your opinion to be more informed or relevant than any other random BBV poster. GTFO and develop a disturbing obsession with some other threads.
struck:

[ ] by lightning
[ ] out
[x] a nerve
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10-12-2010 , 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by starrazz
***EPILOGUE***

I received the following email from Sol Reader today. It is followed by my reply.
Hello.

I have gained the ability to PM, and will be contacting Jalex and the individuals regarding the charities, and in the meantime, I wanted to send you a message as you were quite interested in the thread.

I do not expect you to begin to trust me the slightest, but I was happy to see that you have accepted that I am , to some degree, I am trying to make up for what I had done.

I know you have had strong feelings about my flawed character, whether or not I can ever feel guilty or if I am a cold heartless person. I want to say that I do and I'm not. I'm an egomaniac, selfish person, sure, but it really hurt me to realize how stupid I was and how lonely it can be, and I really appreciate your sentiment, and I will try my best to keep out of everyones way, and, if I can, do more good for the world and people around me.

Only time will tell if I live up to what I say, and perhaps you will never know or even care, but if even a small chance is given, from someone who crucified me so, for me to try and set things right, then I would feel revitalized to change and better myself, and not get into a cycle of deceit.

I was not sarcastic then when I said I wish you all well, and I am not now. Have a nice day.
Thank you for the kind words.

I see you as a pyromaniac. Two Plus Two is the matches. Poker is the fire. Money is the gasoline. You need to avoid the first two and have a responsible third party help you use the third responsibly.

Therapy is an important treatment option you should explore to deal with your addictions and compulsions. The last site you should be visiting is Two Plus Two. The last thing you should be doing is gambling. I define gambling as all casino activities except poker, but also including poker if played irresponsibly (with intent to defraud, with money needed for other purposes, etc.).

The last time you played with fire, the trusting community of Two Plus Two got burned. Thanks only to Jalex's able use of a fire extinguisher, the community was saved from your fraud and attempts to cover it up. If you intend to continue in your compulsions (keep playing poker and/or gambling), then this community has the right to know all of your screen names, past and present, your full name, and your city of residence.

If you are sorry for anything, it would be interesting to hear for what, and to whom you think that apology should be directed.
i almost feel bad roseeker didnt send me a pm
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10-20-2010 , 12:28 PM
Recipients: jalexand42

10-08-2010, 10:50 PM

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Hello,

I just found out that I can PM now, so I would like to take this time to thank you for the help.

That said, as the funds are held and meant to be used for charity, I would appreciate it if you can update me with the progress. If you can help contact and reach a decision with the involved parties within the month and inform me of the result, I would very much appreciate it, as I would very much like to put this whole issue behind me.

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Thank you.

Today, 10:53 AM
Hello
Sorry, have you received my message? I understand if you have other priorities and have not been able to sort out what to do with the funds, but a confirmation would be nice.

Thank you.
The second message is sent roughly half an hour ago; according to 2+2 he was viewing a thread. Some minutes after, it said that he was checking his private messaging, presumably he saw my message. He is now offline, despite having read my message and even though all I wanted was a "Got your message, been busy, will sort it out when I have time".

I would like a 2+2 moderator or trusted individual to please volunteer to take the 1k from jalex since he is obviously either very busy or not very motivated in sorting out the funds. If on the 27th no significant progress is made in reaching a decision I would like that escrow to donate the entire 1k to Oxfam, which so far is a charity that has not been met with any objections, and post a receipt or screenshot, and thus close the matter.

I have offered to give out 1k from my own earnings, and have no intentions of taking it back through loopholes or whatever, but I think the least that could be promised me is that my funds goes smoothly to deserving hands.

Thank you.
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10-20-2010 , 12:47 PM
No u don't deserve ****, now gtfo

Last edited by IamPro; 10-20-2010 at 12:48 PM. Reason: u ****ing make me sick you scum of the earth
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10-20-2010 , 12:50 PM
Why does Oxfam not deserve money?

Last edited by Sol Reader; 10-20-2010 at 12:56 PM.
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10-20-2010 , 02:09 PM
That's not the friggin church. We don't forgive your sins for cash. Wait ...
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10-20-2010 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
Recipients: jalexand42

10-08-2010, 10:50 PM



The second message is sent roughly half an hour ago; according to 2+2 he was viewing a thread. Some minutes after, it said that he was checking his private messaging, presumably he saw my message. He is now offline, despite having read my message and even though all I wanted was a "Got your message, been busy, will sort it out when I have time".

I would like a 2+2 moderator or trusted individual to please volunteer to take the 1k from jalex since he is obviously either very busy or not very motivated in sorting out the funds. If on the 27th no significant progress is made in reaching a decision I would like that escrow to donate the entire 1k to Oxfam, which so far is a charity that has not been met with any objections, and post a receipt or screenshot, and thus close the matter.

I have offered to give out 1k from my own earnings, and have no intentions of taking it back through loopholes or whatever, but I think the least that could be promised me is that my funds goes smoothly to deserving hands.

Thank you.
roseeker you pulling another scam here?
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10-20-2010 , 02:29 PM
Blammo......I just took the 1k from Jalex when he wasn't looking
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10-20-2010 , 02:34 PM
I just want the money to go to a charity asap. It would be great if someone like Krantz as last time or a 2+2 mod volunteer. Thanks. If you have a good suggestion, then please do not hesitate to give your input.
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10-20-2010 , 02:45 PM
I've already shipped the money to Jalex, but he is ignoring my messages. I will contact Alobar.

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Hello,

No doubt you are familiar with the original thread as well as this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=113

Jalex has volunteered to hold my funds, but has so far ignored my messages for several weeks after receiving my funds. I thought after messaging him again he would respond, but as he is unwilling I would like another trustworthy person to send it to charity, and when I asked for suggestions I was told to contact you.

Would you be willing to help take these funds and send it to Oxfam or contact the participants of the prop bet and have them decide which charity to send the funds to?

While I understand few people would like to help someone like me, this money may help people who are in need.

Thank you.
Please note that I am NOT trying to attack Jalex, I am sure he is very busy and 1k is a measly sum for him, it is just that I sent my money on the 26th/27th or so, and I'd also sent a message on the 10th, meaning that it's been two weeks and a half since my last message and 3weeks+ since I sent the funds, and I have heard NO WORD as to what is happening with it.

As I have said I gave my money thinking that it would go to a useful cause. That this is at least a good thing is something that I hope nobody disagrees with. It is not my business whether people forgive me or believe that I have changed, but what I SHOULD have a say is that when a trusted person volunteers to take my money and give it to charity, he actually does so and lets me know instead of ignoring my messages.

If I had waited a few days before sending money to Jalex when he asked me to do so, I would have been called shady and ingenuous and so on. If HE takes 3weeks+ and still refuses to tell me what's happening with the money, it's completely fine and I am the one in the wrong?

Sure it's because I have a history, that's why people are suspicious, but this time I SENT THE MONEY AS SOON AS HE VOLUNTEERED. Yeah he's trustworthy and obviously isn't trying to take my money, that doesn't mean he gets to do whatever they want and not do what they promised to. It seems that he's made numerous forum posts since receiving my money too, so clearly he's not THAT busy to even just say "still sorting it out, will notify when sent". I mean, how hard is it to type that?

Perhaps Jalex feels that I am some filth and "scum of the earth" as some others do and does not wish to even type a message to me. In that case, a quick screenshot of him donating the 1k to Oxfam posted in this thread would be satisfactory, no proof is necessary, I am not insolent enough to suggest he would photoshop or whatever, of course not. I am only worried because he has given no indication that he is even trying to send my money to a charity when I asked.

Last edited by Sol Reader; 10-20-2010 at 03:01 PM.
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10-20-2010 , 03:12 PM
Jalex sent me a message. Everything should be fine. Sorry for bothering everyone.

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Confirmed that I got it. This is the busiest time of the year for me, I'll get it done and let you know.
If alobar or another mod would like to help him in sorting out the funds I am sure both he, and potential recipients would greatly appreciate it.
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10-20-2010 , 03:55 PM
Dude, after this; Get your old account unbanned and start posting like a regular poster.

Gary/bjorn is doing it, and save for scumbag comments is doing fine. So you like to lie and sometimes cheat others, thats really bad obv but its also the internet. Now that you paid your debt, and I know how much you like posting on 2p2, theres no need to deprive yourself, just go ahead and do it.
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10-20-2010 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Iron Tamer
Dude, after this; Get your old account unbanned and start posting like a regular poster.

Gary/bjorn is doing it, and save for scumbag comments is doing fine. So you like to lie and sometimes cheat others, thats really bad obv but its also the internet. Now that you paid your debt, and I know how much you like posting on 2p2, theres no need to deprive yourself, just go ahead and do it.
not this
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10-20-2010 , 06:52 PM
This guy is a scammer (scum of the earth)/attention whore and has the personality of an 8 year old. With that being said, thanks for donating to charity.
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11-27-2010 , 08:18 PM
Did this money ever get donated?
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