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So this is what its like to be a degenerate So this is what its like to be a degenerate

09-04-2007 , 04:11 PM
I did it again. I even made a post about coming back. I took time off, redeposited for too little, then played underrolled. And its time to admit it: I can't play online well, and its possible that I'm much more a breakeven player live than I am a winning one.

I suppose since I have difficulty getting money on and off of sites I am weary of putting too much on. So, like I do every [censored] time, I deposit 300 or so, play .25/.50, get bored, enter some 10 or 20 dollar nightime tourneys when I go to bed, bust cause I've never run hot playing poker, (ever, like seriously no "for the last 2k hands I've been Midas") and because I suck at tournaments, or I get drunk and play 1/2 with [censored] close to 1/4 of my roll, etc.

Why don't I apply the [censored] lessons I learn, why am I so [censored] impatient, and most importantly, why can't I run hot if human waste like Jamie Gold gets to? I have a friend that is a classic over aggressive dumbass gambler who plays SNGs almost exlusively. He cannot lose. He got second in a 40k guarenteed for 12k, then won a BBJ live for like 4k. Ugh. Plus I play during like all my day free time in between classes, instead of do my HW so I can have my nights free. But nooooo, I have to play [censored] [censored] stakes till 5 in the morning then fall asleep, miss class, then post emo on 2p2.



This is so sad, there are players so much worse than me that still make money. I dunno, if you've seen egocidal at the micros on FT, let me know straight up here if I suck ass. Seeya at the tables when the welfare comes through. I have 1.05 in my account on FT.
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09-04-2007 , 04:14 PM
Right there with ya, buddy.
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09-04-2007 , 04:14 PM
Thanks for this post?? Why don't you just deposit more if you think you can play...lol I don't get the rant.
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09-04-2007 , 04:20 PM
read saucy's thread
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09-04-2007 , 04:21 PM
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Thanks for this post?? Why don't you just deposit more if you think you can play...lol I don't get the rant.
I don't get your face



edit: on reflection, picture not called for.
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09-04-2007 , 04:27 PM
I think plenty of players are there with you. I don't find it a coincidence that I nearly always go bust online; however, make money about as consistently as possible playing live. I am, without a doubt, a very good live cash player. There is some reason why I always get 2-outered deep in online tourneys and never make the big FT (I say big because I've made numerous smaller FTs), and some reason why my insanely good calls in cash games online let the donks catch up to me for the win on the river.

Why do you think everytime someone makes a post about a good month or even a good year online, everyone on this site then chimes in about the inevitably huge downswing that will follow? I'm pretty much done with the online thing. Once I move back north I'm ready to just suck it up and hit the casinos on the weekends. Plus, I'm excited to play the old nits in the PLO8 games rather than the Euros online.
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09-04-2007 , 04:30 PM
i'm not saying online's rigged or anything, I'm just saying I don't think I have the mindset to play it well consistently.
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09-04-2007 , 04:31 PM
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i'm not saying online's rigged or anything, I'm just saying I don't think I have the mindset to play poker well consistently.
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09-04-2007 , 04:34 PM
maybe
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09-04-2007 , 04:36 PM
at least you have enough to play in the ferguson tourny
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09-04-2007 , 06:22 PM
figure out what you think you are capable of bb/100. Play your best 10k hands. Compare how you good you think you are to how you really did. Most good players have been where you are at some point I'd imagine. Its about progress, just need to figure out what is holding you back and fix it. I began to see better results when I realised that playing at the .5-1 level I'd have to play LOT of hands to see the results I would like to. You might just be afraid to accept that you are forced to grind like everyone else, untill you have a bankroll that will allow you to see some decent return.
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09-04-2007 , 06:25 PM
read some [censored] in NVG, theres some pretty degen [censored] going on right there. its fun
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09-04-2007 , 06:26 PM
Get some exercise before you play, you will be a lot calmer.
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09-04-2007 , 06:27 PM
keep playing, never give up yo.
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09-04-2007 , 06:34 PM
dude. i feel bad for u. next time u deposit more than uber micro stakes let me know. ill watch u play or something, give u some advice.

also, read more books, specifically the theory of poker.
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09-04-2007 , 06:44 PM
1. Get a baller job
2. Build a baller bankroll
3. Play live poker successfully
4. Quit the baller job
5. Get a super gay nickname like "The Grinder"
6. Get sponsored by an online site that includes a contract that says, "We will forever kaboomswitch you..."
7. Profit
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09-04-2007 , 06:51 PM
If you have a canal to get money somewhere else than poker you may think you are rolled to 1/2. You just have the roll in the long run, not at the moment.

After many busto's you finally get robusto... for a while at least.
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09-04-2007 , 06:56 PM
how much are you down lifetime online?
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09-04-2007 , 07:05 PM
Work on your tourney game if you think you suck at them, high MTT finishes do wonders for your bankroll. I'm in the same boat as you, I can't stand grinding the micro limits any more so I'm purely doing MTTs/STTs until I get my roll to 2k or so.
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09-04-2007 , 07:11 PM
Numbers. Give us Numbers.
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09-04-2007 , 07:14 PM
09-04-2007 , 07:18 PM
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Numbers. Give us Numbers.
And Graphs. Give us Numbers and Grafs.
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09-04-2007 , 07:32 PM
That is a major weak spot in my poker upbringing, I have forever been a Mac man and therefore do not have the capabilities to run PT or graphs. I estimate I avg. about 500 hands a day (maybe lifetime....I dunno, 100k hands? I know, its too long of sample size. Like I said I am naturally impatient. This is a small sample from my last real limit session, like 600 hands. This was a good session.


% hands I see flop: 22
turn:15
river:13
showdown: 8

won PF/saw: 2
won flop: 3
won turn: 7
won river: 9
won showdown: 53

This was a pretty good day. There werent too many with that won @ showdown number.
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09-04-2007 , 07:41 PM
Last year I did a whole assload of reading including SSHE, HE for Advanced Players, SuperSystem 2 etc. picked up TOP as well, but...the problem is simply that I am not a math oriented person. Or even a 'prisoner's dillema', game theory, type of person. I get it, mostly, and have a good frame for the game and when to make a certain play, I just cannot tell you how I calculated, say, fold equity for the hand. Backgammon and chess are both gay IMO, that's just the kind of personality I have. I have a good friend who posts here who is a good player, but the difference between us is this:

1) he is very driven
2) He is very very smart
3) He enjoys, and does for fun, mathematical, economic, statistical, and market based equations.
4) not BR management ******ed.

Junior Year, this year, I played live for like 4 straight days before school started. Hollywood Park just tilts me, there is no other way to explain it. Only when I am playing something like 6/12 where they move us out of the purgatory/hell that is the main poker floor do I feel more comfortable. But when you're on hand cash is something like 800 bucks, thats severly underrolled.

Lifetime losses/gains? I'd guesstimate I'm down not that much, like 400-500. You can't be down that much when you don't deposit that much. I've deposited like a total of 4 times in my life, either through a transfer or neteller (oh back in the day...)
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